Let's just get right to it. Does Debbie even believe what's coming out of her mouth? I mean, Holly already clarified she wasn't being serious when she said that. And here, Debbie even questions it before going all in and shouting it out at Rain. So did something click (even if she's still wrong in this case)? Or is she just trying to get under Rain's skin with her own idea of a joke?
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Unless I am seriously missing something, Debbie has not even attempted to talk to Emily about this. Quite frankly, if she's always this irresponsible about getting the full story from her friends when something happens to them like this, then that's reason enough for anyone to unfriend Debbie on the spot. Quite frankly, misinformation is the last thing anyone needs here, least of all Emily, who has stated she wants minimal drama. Even if Debbie can't hear me calling her out on this, here it is: If you ever considered yourself her friend at all, then it is your obligation to go talk to her and find out what's going on rather than blame someone else arbitrarily because you can't take the initiative. If you can't even do that, clearly Emily wasn't worth anything to you anyway, in which case do the respectful thing and BUTT OUT.
While this true, and she should, you got to remember that it doesn't seem this way to Debbie, Emily almost stopped talking to Holly and Debby since she got pregnant, and instead became friends with Rain and her group.
Debbie just sees that Emily has gone trough an extreme personality change since she became friends with Rain, she doesn't know that the Emily she knew was a just faked personality, and Emily hasn't told Debbie or Holly she's basically been lying to them all these years, so Debbie doesn't know that this is Emily's real personality.
All Debbie sees is this new person that came into school, and her BFF suddenly became BFF's with this girl, and totally drops their friendship.
It's still not Rain's fault, Emily's behavior is about Emily, not Rain.Issues between Debbie and Emily need to be discussed between them, there's no reason for Debbie to involve Rain in an issues tat has nothing to do with her. Debbie is blaming Rain for Emily's behavior and that is not healthy, okay, or acceptable. It's like when a significant other dates multiple people without their knowledge and they blame eachother instead of the person cheating, it's ridiculous and unacceptable to blame someone for someone else's behavior or choices. Debbie has made no attempt to talk with Emily, so this situation is as much her fault as Emily's and in no way is it Rain's fault nor does it have anything to do with her.
I definitely think that Debbie is just so overwhelmed that she's just saying that without actually believing it herself, but I think she's probably gonna get something out of Rain on accident. Then it could get really vicious... I really hope Debbie cools off before she does real damage, I always kinda liked Debbie
Oh boy, this isn't going to end well... Rain needs to outright say Chase is the father and that Emily came to her because she was scared of how her friends would react, as at the time she still wasn't sure if she was going to keep it. She needs to think fast otherwise this is going to go south FAST.
"It is NOT Rain's place to confirm that Chase is father."
Why not? When a secret is between two close friends of a third friend, and you are stuck between outing yourself or blurting out "Chase is the dad" I think it is okay to say that.
It would be inappropriate for Rain to betray Emily's confidence to try to get out of a difficult conversation and clear up things a bit with Debbie. Ultimately, the information about who the father is was shared with Rain in confidence. Now, it may be the case that Emily is now OK with Debbie knowing this information but it's not Rain's place to decide that. It's Emily's. Rain could tell Debbie that it's not her place to discuss this with her but actually sharing the information would constitute a betrayal of trust at this point in time. This is even though everyone is probably already assuming that Chase is the father. Rain can just say "I cannot confirm with who the father is." and leave it at that.
I think you're misunderstanding something. Ana has a confidence that she has vowed to keep. In this case, yes, even to save her own skin, she cannot tell this secret. However, in this case, the only secret she is keeping for Emily is that she is pregnant. Given that Debbie knows Emily, Debbie knows Chase, and Debbie knows Emily is pregnant, she is not betraying a huge secret here. She is telling to an estranged friend the one thing that will ease her mind.
And here's the other part of the equation. Chase is a bastard. Keeping Emily's secret is not protecting Emily. It's protecting CHASE. Debbie deserves to be able to take out her anger on an actual target, not on the victim and victim's current best friend.
Also, in this case, this sort of answer is basically an admission of guilt. If Rain said that, Debbie would immediately know that she is lying, and likely try to out her, all for a confidence that is not even relevant. Emily is not here but... (1)if Emily were here she would likely be okay with telling the girl who was her best friend before Rain, and (2)if Emily were here she would definitely not be okay with Rain being outed to keep a secret that is not even a secret anymore.
Yes, a confidence is important. But you have to consider when this is important. If Emily's secret is revealed... oh wait, it was revealed and there were basically no repercussions. She wasn't kicked out of school like she thought, nothing. If Rain's secret is revealed, she risks any number of things, including getting killed for being transgender. It is clear to Emily, and should be clear to Rain, that Emily's secret should be kept only if it doesn't endanger Rain's own safety.
To answer Rain's question, the only way for a female to get pregnant is with a male and a female, so if Debbie thinks rain is a male, then Rain's cover is blown.
Not good (and this is why assuming is bad. This escalated quickly in a couple of pages.)
Not to be pedantic, but that's not actually completely true. As far as biology goes, it's apparently possible for two women to have a baby, but the sex of the baby (barring a genetic abnormality) is guaranteed to be female, since there is no Y chromosome to source.
Actually, the Daily Mail is a tabloid, and is known for posting fake sensationalist scientific stories, so you probably shouldn't believe that unless you can find some other sources confirming it. Not to be the fake news police, or anything.
Ok sorry this is unrelated but I gotta rant for a moment: just because someone is straight does not make them a bad person, or homophobic, or give you any reason to have anything against them. Just because someone is LGBT does not make them a bad person or give you any reason to have anything against them. This is completely unrelated to the comic, because this comic does a great job of showing diversity and acceptance for everyone. Homophobia/transphobia are things I am definitely not okay with, but what saddens me even more is when an LGBT member says something like "Heterosexuals are so stupid and they should die". Members of LGBT should know better than anyone how it feels to be hated and discriminated against. Their sexuality is no more of a choice than ours. Sorry, I had to rant because I've heard way to much of this lately. Again, not relating to anyone on here or the comic. Everyone on here is wonderful and Jocelyn is doing an amazing job <3
The idea of getting outed is always super scary. So far, Debbie has been super combative, doesn't like Rain, and now has a piece of information that could easily get her expelled.
Assume the worst, hope for the best, and understand that this is a comic about a trans girl so in all likelihood she's going to suffer immensely. ;____;
Actually she doesn't. That was speculation. If Rain doesn't give herself away at this point that's all it will be. (Not that it wouldn't cause problems for Rain if she spread it around mind you, but it's still something she suspects, not something she has on her.)
It is not going to lead to humanity's extinction.
It is not going to lead to genocide.
It is not going to lead to anyone's death.
I'd say, Debbie's behavior is not that bad.
Rereading this now, it seems to me that the way Rain responds suggests (to someone with limited knowledge) that she and Emily have engaged in some sort of sexual activity. Really we know she's flustered because she has been keeping her relationship with Emily a secret but I think Debbie is going to read more into it than that. Oh boy. That said, I don't think Debbie is going to figure out Rain is trans, but I can't be certain of that.
Also, Rain, never play poker.
Unless I am seriously missing something, Debbie has not even attempted to talk to Emily about this. Quite frankly, if she's always this irresponsible about getting the full story from her friends when something happens to them like this, then that's reason enough for anyone to unfriend Debbie on the spot. Quite frankly, misinformation is the last thing anyone needs here, least of all Emily, who has stated she wants minimal drama. Even if Debbie can't hear me calling her out on this, here it is: If you ever considered yourself her friend at all, then it is your obligation to go talk to her and find out what's going on rather than blame someone else arbitrarily because you can't take the initiative. If you can't even do that, clearly Emily wasn't worth anything to you anyway, in which case do the respectful thing and BUTT OUT.
Debbie just sees that Emily has gone trough an extreme personality change since she became friends with Rain, she doesn't know that the Emily she knew was a just faked personality, and Emily hasn't told Debbie or Holly she's basically been lying to them all these years, so Debbie doesn't know that this is Emily's real personality.
All Debbie sees is this new person that came into school, and her BFF suddenly became BFF's with this girl, and totally drops their friendship.
Why not? When a secret is between two close friends of a third friend, and you are stuck between outing yourself or blurting out "Chase is the dad" I think it is okay to say that.
I think you're misunderstanding something. Ana has a confidence that she has vowed to keep. In this case, yes, even to save her own skin, she cannot tell this secret. However, in this case, the only secret she is keeping for Emily is that she is pregnant. Given that Debbie knows Emily, Debbie knows Chase, and Debbie knows Emily is pregnant, she is not betraying a huge secret here. She is telling to an estranged friend the one thing that will ease her mind.
And here's the other part of the equation. Chase is a bastard. Keeping Emily's secret is not protecting Emily. It's protecting CHASE. Debbie deserves to be able to take out her anger on an actual target, not on the victim and victim's current best friend.
Also, in this case, this sort of answer is basically an admission of guilt. If Rain said that, Debbie would immediately know that she is lying, and likely try to out her, all for a confidence that is not even relevant. Emily is not here but... (1)if Emily were here she would likely be okay with telling the girl who was her best friend before Rain, and (2)if Emily were here she would definitely not be okay with Rain being outed to keep a secret that is not even a secret anymore.
Yes, a confidence is important. But you have to consider when this is important. If Emily's secret is revealed... oh wait, it was revealed and there were basically no repercussions. She wasn't kicked out of school like she thought, nothing. If Rain's secret is revealed, she risks any number of things, including getting killed for being transgender. It is clear to Emily, and should be clear to Rain, that Emily's secret should be kept only if it doesn't endanger Rain's own safety.
Not good (and this is why assuming is bad. This escalated quickly in a couple of pages.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-59196/How-women-make-babies-men.html
Baaaaaaad
Assume the worst, hope for the best, and understand that this is a comic about a trans girl so in all likelihood she's going to suffer immensely. ;____;
It is not going to lead to genocide.
It is not going to lead to anyone's death.
I'd say, Debbie's behavior is not that bad.