Comic 884 - Name Game

15th Nov 2016, 4:56 PM in Ch. 30: Little Victories
Name Game
Average Rating: 4.85 (13 votes)
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Jocelyn 15th Nov 2016, 4:56 PM edit delete
It's weird. Unlike Rain, I never actually put that much thought into my name. I agonize over names a lot, but that's more as a writer than anything. I had been going by "Jocelyn" since long before I started coming out to people. I don't remember contextually how it started, but a few of my friends were calling me Jocelyn (or more frequently, just Lynn) as a nickname for years before I even considered transitioning.

Then when I was starting transition and coming out to people, I was using Jocelyn just because it was the closest thing to a femininization of my deadname (and many of my friends had already been calling me that anyway). For the most part, this was just to make it easier for my friends and family to remember the name and get used to it so they wouldn't annoy me through deadnaming as much. But despite this being more for others rather than myself, by the time I finally got to legally changing my name three or so years ago, I'd already been identifying as Jocelyn/Lynn for over a decade. Changing it then felt like it would've just confused everyone, including myself! I really couldn't use any other name. XD

I DID however change my middle name at the last second. I was originally going to go with Jocelyn Charity. There was no deep meaning to it for me though; I just liked the way it sounded. But just before handing in my paperwork, I decided to go with Jocelyn Samara instead. Samara would've been name if I'd my parents knew they had a second daughter, so I wanted to honor that (and honestly, I think it's a beautiful name that I don't hear often anyway).

Anyway, TL;DR - I didn't have to think about my first name much. My middle name was a bit more of a challenge, for sure. But Rain is putting a LOT more effort into this than I did. XD

As for the names mentioned, Allison is - if you recall from a few chapters ago - an actual character in the story. This is somewhat relevant. This was also actually touched on briefly in Chapter A (the bonus chapter of Volume 1).

The name Lydia however has never been mentioned in the comic. I don't know if it ever will again, in fact. That's just a little touch I added because I think it's my favorite name (but it doesn't feel like MY name). I always find myself wanting to use it in my stories, but kinda left it reserved for if I ever had a daughter. It may be moot now as I don't think that will happen at this point, but I just don't know if I'm ready to use it in a story yet. Good ol' writer's dilemma. XD

Finally, that last panel. I mean, it'd probably be weird if the main character who the comic is named after changed her name, but hey, stranger things have happened. Like she said, she's still got about five and a half months before her 18th birthday. If she's waiting for that to legally change her name, there's nothing stopping her from weighing her options in the meantime.

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Cassie_bi_at_birth 15th Nov 2016, 5:06 PM edit delete reply
Awww I love this comic too much
Reimi 15th Nov 2016, 5:17 PM edit delete reply
This page is so close to home for me right now, I bounced between names, for years I used Reimi for all my female characters in games. When the time came to pick my name, I kinda wanted to keep it, but also knew it was too exotic to not draw attention. I set back out to find a name that truly meant something to me and then at some point it clicked. I might have been watching Pokemon 2000, I might have been listening to Melodies of Life, but it clicked, I bounced it around for a while, and it really has felt right for me. My Mom picked my middle name with the help of a friend (a middle name I now share with my dog... yes, my Dog has a full name)

I have the court petition filled out and ready to go, I just have to decide if the uncertainty of updating my gender markers now vs next year (where every rule could revert back to surgery required) is worth the risk of coming out early at work. (because a legal name change and document update would out me at this place, and rumor spreads faster than light) So yeah, dilemma.
Mouse 16th Nov 2016, 2:40 AM edit delete reply
I decided to stick with my exotic name (Teal-Rose) and have gotten nothing but compliments about it ^_^
RubyRuthNeal 15th Nov 2016, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
Rain sounds also very close to Ryan. I know some trans people want to get as far away from their birth name as possible, but in this case I think Rain should keep Rain. It's a beautiful name and fits her perfectly.

I'm keeping remnants of my birth name in my new chosen name.

My first chosen name Ruth was given to me by my sister and my next-door neighbor girlfriend 46 years ago when I was 8. It has a special place in my heart, so I must keep it. My birth middlename is actually Rudy, and as a child my mother always called me Rudy followed by my firstname, especially whenever I was in trouble for something and she was yelling at me.

Also, here in Texas, it's really cliche for people to have two names (Bobbie Jo, Billy Bob, Peggy Sue, etc) and thanks to Jocelyn... I so had to steal the Rudy -> Ruby name, so I am hereby now "Ruby Ruth". And if you look at my halloween party photo, you gotta admit "By gosh ya'll, now that there *is* a Ruby Ruth"

Edit to add: I also really like, no I mean *REALLY* like the name "Leah" and thought about using that for a long time since it's one letter different from being an anagram of my birth first name. It just doesn't fit me though.

Hmmmm.... Rain Leah Flaherty, now there's a thought... What do ya'll think?
Damocles_Sword 15th Nov 2016, 6:21 PM edit delete reply
Nah, you need to name her Millie, go full anime reference.
Zii 15th Nov 2016, 6:39 PM edit delete reply
I first transitioned senior year of high school, and I picked a name that came about under similar circumstances to my birth name (both named for cartoon characters, actually). When I moved away for college and started living stealth, I decided to revert to my birth name, just presenting female (it was an androgynous-enough name, at least). I thought it would be easier than explaining that I wanted to go by a name so very different from my legal name.

But when the time came for me to decide on a name, I asked someone very close to me, someone I considered a surrogate mother at the time, to give me a name. And that was the name I took to heart.

I literally decided my middle names the day before I changed them. I liked the idea of having two, so I did. The first one is another name I considered going by, but never did, and the second is one of honor toward that surrogate mother. I kept my last name, but I wish I hadn't. Nobody I care about shares it. My mom took a new last name when she remarried, and I am not on speaking terms with my father.
Guest 15th Nov 2016, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
Names are always interesting to think about! It definitely would be a bit weird if Rain changed her name now, since she's in a webcomic with her name in it and all, but it's not that unusual. One of my friends (a cis girl) wants to change her name as well, and she did think about it quite a bit.

Rain is definitely a convenient name, since it can be put off as a "persistent typo" and all, which is a luxury she wouldn't have had if she did decide to go with, say, Allison or Lydia. (Allison would be a bit awkward when she met the original Allison later, too.) It does have its drawbacks, being an unusual name and very close to her dead name.

... this is kind of unrelated, but what's going on with college with all of the Rain kids? I know I have to apply for university early next year (early senior year) but there's been very little mention of colleges or universities that anyone would want to go to in the Rainverse. I figured you'd have to apply a little bit earlier, unless they were taking a year off or something. It would also be pretty cool to see what everyone's interested in doing!
Vidd187 15th Nov 2016, 7:47 PM edit delete reply
Has she thought of secondary names? Also Jocelyn have you heard of the band Steam Powered Giraffe they have a member that is transitioning and she is who brought gender disphoria to my mind I then started reading Rain and it is helping me understand it more.
Guest 15th Nov 2016, 8:50 PM edit delete reply
How many times have you all changes your names?
j-eagle12212012 15th Nov 2016, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
Names are always important ... I just can't drift away from J names. Before I came out I would use the first letter of my dead name or even JT, I used J-Eagle for a name in a really old online game called Infantry, the 12212012 came about after I played Assassins Creed. I go by JurriRig [my pony OC] with most online friends now... but yeah the point... my deadname was a J name nd my prefered name is Jamie, as for what my mom would have named me Adrianna or Audryana ... I might go with Jamie Audryana K when I change my name.
Jessica P 15th Nov 2016, 11:32 PM edit delete reply
I legally changed my name in October 2016. I thought about it for years and considered many different names, but eventually I went with Jessica, partially because my birth name was a 'J' name and I wanted to keep that. Also it just felt right.

Jocelyn, it's interesting you went by Lynn for a time, because that's what I changed my middle name to! I didn't think about it too much either, I just liked the way it sounded.

Although, now I'm getting a little regret I didn't change it to Jessica Marie, because that would give me the initials JMP (insert nerdy programming joke here).
Reimi 16th Nov 2016, 5:48 PM edit delete reply
If my current name choice holds, I'll have the initials MMS. My Mom still wants me to keep my first initial the same, but J names are kinda tricky since they are so common, there isn't one option that I don't either personally or already know a trans person that picked that name, making me feel like a copy cat. My current choice feels personal.

This comic resparked the debate between us on it and I'm giving it one last consideration before making the choice "final" with legal papers.
Callisto 16th Nov 2016, 1:49 AM edit delete reply
Like others, I had a lot of feels on this page.

When I left my deadname behind, and took my current name, I asked my mother to participate in that process, and she asked that I keep the same starting phoneme for the name. That turned out to be somewhat of a challenge, but I managed it. With all of that said, my name is somewhat androgynous. THAT said, it is very me, so I like it just fine. :)
Jessica 16th Nov 2016, 3:36 AM edit delete reply
Thank you for this page. It reminded me that after two years of being openly trans, I STILL hadn't picked a middle name for myself. So thanks for this unintentional reminder XD
Moon Skillin 16th Nov 2016, 5:34 AM edit delete reply
I went with soo many names haha, before I even came out I went by Red (still super cool imo), but then the first time I came out at the end of freshman year it was as nonbinary and I went with Sil (a section of my birthname flipped), but then I identified as a trans guy for a while and went through Derek, then Daniel (for like 6 months), and now in Junior year I'm comfortably nonbinary and I've been using the name Moon for several months and hopefully forever once I change it legally. Middle names are tough now though, because the word moon is kind of like vanilla ice cream, anything near it decided its color/flavor/connotations. So I meed a middle name thats either similarly unflavored, or none at all. Idk where that'll go lol.
AmbiguousMouse 16th Nov 2016, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
Obviously I wouldn't ask Rain to go by her dead name for any greater length of time than absolutely necessary, but I feel it pertinent to note I have multiple cis women friends named Ryan, so I don't know if it's even specifically a name to run away from to maintain "femininity."

Not that I'd recommend choosing a name based solely on how close you can match to your dead name, because I'd have probably gone for Jackie or something in that case... It's all about what feels like your name.

In a perhaps unusual move, I did choose my middle name as something of an homage to my dead name, mostly because I was very committed to the first name I chose but still wanted my Mom's decisions while naming me to be a part of my name and she's no longer around to ask what her girl choice would've been. I got lucky - I took the first two letters from my first and middle dead names and got Jade, which is a very serviceable true middle name. ^-^
Jocelyn 16th Nov 2016, 11:09 AM edit delete reply

"I feel it pertinent to note I have multiple cis women friends named Ryan, so I don't know if it's even specifically a name to run away from to maintain "femininity."

Oh, of course. I've know women named Ryan as well. It's gender neutral, so Rain COULD presumably get away with not changing it at all. Here's the thing though. I've known a fair few trans folk (male and female) who were given gender neutral names at birth. Jamie, Morgan, Madison, Ryan, Alex, Cortney, and other names like that. 100% of them have either changed their names, or plan to as soon as they can. From my experience, it seems like they tend to attribute the name more with their assigned gender, rather than the name being gender neutral. So a trans girl named Jamie could still prefer to change their name when they transition. I personally have known more female Jamies than male ones, but I could see how someone who's been called Jamie with male pronouns always attached their whole life might see it as more masculine.

That's kind of what I'm going for with Rain. Ryan can be used for girls and boys. But Rain has heard it directed at her AS a boy name her whole life. It's hard to break a connection like that. It might not be the case for everyone, but it certainly seems the case for many as far as I've seen.
Fox 16th Nov 2016, 11:49 AM edit delete reply
I spent a long time deciding on my middle name, my first name is a nickname my friends used for me in high school and which I've gone by for over a decade. It feels very me and it's gender neutral so it doesn't automatically out me. It feels like MY name, which my legal name never did. In the end I decided on Kit Nathaniel, Kit means fox, and I'm taking my husband's last name because I like it and hate my father, who was a horribly abusive man. Overall, I can't wait to legally change it and my gender marker, which I plan to do at the same time.
Anon England 16th Nov 2016, 2:25 PM edit delete reply
Hmm...I suppose if you were trying to get Lydia in the comic somehow but weren't sure....

Isn't that what middle names are for?
BlackSocks 16th Nov 2016, 3:24 PM edit delete reply
So.... if Rain did change her name to something else....
-The comic would have to change names
-Thus, new merchandise would be labeled with the comic's new name (let's call it 'Cordelia')
-With all new merchandise being Cordelia, Rain merchandise would become rare
-Rare= valuable
-Thus, if I bought Rain merchandise now, I could become rich down the road! Rich! *crazed laugh*
Lyn the Mysfortunate 16th Nov 2016, 3:43 PM edit delete reply
I almost changed my name from Joy to Jo because as a female-bodied nonbinary person who isn't planning on transitioning, I felt like I needed a more masculine name to tip the scales of other people's perceptions of me, but I decided against it. Even though Joy is traditionally a feminine name, it's a word, and I am very much if the belief that words (other than words made specifically to gender people) should not carry any conotation of gender. Joy just feels like my name, and I'm not changing it because other people might think it's too girly. I am changing my middle name from Nichole to Nic, though.

Also, I made up the alter ego Lyn the Mysfortunate when I still identified as female, but Lyn can be a gender neutral name as well, so I didn't have to think of a new name for them. :P
Lemonado Girl 17th Nov 2016, 4:22 PM edit delete reply
Lemonado Girl
My deadname only has female variants as close as those of Patrick, and having been mistakenly called that many times, no thanks. So I just thought of names that sounded cute and (I swear without any influence from Rain) decided on Heather. Then for a middle name (because my ohso religious parents decided Joseph was a great idea) the Rain Discord helped me settle on Rose.
Dandelions42 17th Nov 2016, 10:00 PM edit delete reply
Oh! The only trans girl I know is named Heather, that's neat! :3 I love that name so much ^u^
My birth name's quite gendered but I love it to bits, and I'm definitely not planning on changing it anytime soon (I'm nonbinary). Several of my friends have likewise kept their birth names, while others continually change theirs as their preferences and identities evolve, and some go with gender-neutral-classics such as Kai. I'm considering taking on Rosario as some form of an addition to my current name after I discovered it in my quest to find a name with Hispanic origins for my official Spanish class nickname . . . most Hispanic names have a masculine and feminine version, but according to the interwebs, Rosario has very different gender connotations from country to country. ;3
Trouble_Thundia 18th Nov 2016, 12:36 PM edit delete reply
This comic is the reason why I don't go by my deadname anymore! Until I found this webcomic, there were no names that fit me at all that I wanted! Then, I found the name "Ky" from this webcomic and now that's my name, it fits me just right, and I like the sound of it, It's perfect! I changed my middle name to "Elline" [Pronounced like "Madiline" but with a "El" instead of "Madi".] I just made it up one day and chose that to be my middle name! I find it kind of odd that I've never thought of changing my name after that once. [I haven't changed my name legally yet though.]
Lex-Kat 26th Nov 2016, 11:44 PM edit delete reply
Long ago, while still in Grade school, I already hated my name. I wanted something cool sounding, like Jason, or Jacob. My dead name, btw, is Bobbie. Yup. Typical female spelling, just as my grandfather. It was almost predestined...

Anyway, years later, when I realized who I truly am, I began thinking of names. And I first, I latched onto Jessica. It's such a beautiful name. But then, I realized there might be a psychological problem with that name. That being that, uh, I was neighbors with a bad, bad teen when I was a child. And his name was Jessie.

Long story, smaller, I didn't remember the incidents until three years before I realized my own truth. A couple friends I told this to suggested that perhaps Jessica isn't the best name for me.

So I thought about names I really liked: Alexandria, Alyssa, Anastasia, Erika, Jessica (yes, I left Jessica in, because I still liked it), Katarina, Sarah, & Tatianya.

I took those 8 names around to all my friends and family (most of whom didn't know exactly what it was for), and asked them which two they really liked.

The two names with the most votes was: Alexandria and Katarina. And so, Lex-Kat was born! :)
Arrabella Poppe (or Arra) 6th Apr 2017, 4:48 AM edit delete reply
Rain is so much like how i wish i could be then theres Ana as well......

I still cant believe how similar my life has been to rains as well
Mina 12th Dec 2017, 7:44 PM edit delete reply
Sooooo... Is Lydia a Final Fantasy IV reference?
Jocelyn 13th Dec 2017, 9:19 AM edit delete reply

Indirectly, perhaps. Like, the name isn't mentioned here specifically because Rydia from FF4 is one of my very favorite characters of all time. I used it because Lydia is one of my personal favorite names that I just never use in stories.

That said, I probably love the name Lydia as much as I do, because of how much I love the character Rydia.
Samantha Jane 30th May 2018, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
My name (shown above) is a play on my original name. My parents would’ve called me “Rebecca” but while I like it I’m not sure. I’ve always gone by “Sam” so it’d make transitioning way easier and I wouldn’t need to ask for reprints of my various certificate and awards plus new business cards, CVs, internet accounts etc etc...
MeWho 9th Nov 2018, 8:12 PM edit delete reply
So, I've been working my way through the comic since a TGirl friend told me about it. And learned various things about my journey in real life, despite my many years of research. And every now ant then, some memory I had lost comes up. In this case, a 'rest of the story' related to something that happened to me quite young. I don't remember ever announcing that I wanted to be a mommy, even though. But my parents used to relate how me best friend Debby hit me on the head with a truck, and I had to go get stitches.
Well, I was thinking about various parts of Rain while in the shower. And it suddenly hit me that the first thing I remember along the lines of knowing I ought to be a girl was announcing I wanted to 'be Debbie'. And I wondered if I told her that, and that was why she hit me with the truck. I liked her because we could play dolls AND trucks together. But when I told my folks I wanted to be Debbie, and they tried to get me to explain, somehow it became established that actually I wanted to play piano. That wasn't exactly it, of course, but somehow that was where the discussion ended. But we couldn't afford a piano, and there was no room for one in our little house, and I ended up with an accordion. And thus began a long history of not getting quite what I had in mind, and even that being a redirection of something else. Luckily, I have a knack for finding a way to work on focusing on the bright side of what I do get. Which has gotten me through a lot, and sometimes helps other people more than I ever expect. [ Chopped the train of thought there, as I started riding the rails over the cliff; not wanting to bum everyone out. ]
Ron 25th May 2022, 3:08 PM edit delete reply
I poured over name books and websites, did numerology on them (in spite of not caring that much about numerology in general), looked up name origins and meanings, and generally went all background search on what became my forename, Ronan. My middle name is my father's name. I knew I wanted a 5-letter name for my forename, as my previous fore and middle names were both 5 letters and my last name is as well (that was my reasoning but I don't really know why it mattered). But my new name sounds nothing like the one I was given at birth (except the last name, which I kept), and I usually go by Ren or Ron, nicknames that could not have come from my birth names and kinda just emerged spontaneously. And by that I mean I took a liking to Ren and insisted on it. Vigorously. Currently I go by R[any vowel]n. Ron, Rune, Rown, whatever xD Or else Wren, the wizard of birds.
Moonglide 19th Jul 2022, 10:54 PM edit delete reply
"I don't think the name Lydia will be used in this comic."
*glances at the final chapters*
Waffle 6th Sep 2022, 6:00 PM edit delete reply
One of the first things I did once I figured out I was trans was go through virtually every feminine name I could think of to see what fit. Turns out Pokemon games are good for that kind of thing, lots of critters to name quickly.

Pronoun, on the other hand, I didn't give any thought to until someone asked when I came out. Though judging by how I feel now, I don't know that thinking about it ahead of time would have helped.
Speap 16th Oct 2022, 12:40 PM edit delete reply
i get that, deciding on a name for yourself is hard. like, that's what people are gonna know you as. it's harder than just having your parents choose your name for you. part of me wants to just let my parents choose a new name for me after i transition, but i feel like they would choose something that can be neutral but is still more seen as feminine because they're like that :/
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