Comic 843 - For That Matter

7th Jun 2016, 8:38 PM in Ch. 29: Transitions
For That Matter
Average Rating: 4.9 (10 votes)
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Jocelyn 7th Jun 2016, 8:38 PM edit delete
Did... did people really think Chanel would say something transphobic? O_o I figure that must've been faulty wording on my part, but I really hoped that could be avoided. Anyway, I tweaked the dialogue a bit here to make sure it's clear that that wasn't the case, and that Rain didn't see it that way.

But the part I really want to focus on here is the last three panels. Last week, there was a page where Rain touched Emily's belly and cried. Technically speaking, there were definitely a lot of ways to interpret what she was feeling. This might give a little more insight into how she's feeling. Some might say that's an irrational thing for her to think. After all, if Rain helps raise Emily's child by her side, then yes, I would agree that Rain is the other mom. But dysphoria is hardly ever rational...

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Guest 7th Jun 2016, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
I figured she was maybe trying to figure out how to ask if Rain was the biological parent, but stumbling over how to say it without running into the obvious massive landmine. Well at least at first.

But then I realized that Chanel probably wouldn't have come to that conclusion because of the timing. Its kind of easy to lose track of timing in web comics.
Samantha 8th Jun 2016, 9:10 AM edit delete reply
The "father" as in the equivalent donor to the receiver of biological material.
There was a picture online of a lesbian transgender woman and pansexual cisgender woman (effectively Emily and Rain), and it said "we are a queer couple able to reproduce."
And there was a family where both parties were trans.
Chanel didn't mean anything bad by it, she just thought maybe since they have been close lately, Rain might have been sleeping with her.
Guest 8th Jun 2016, 9:41 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, I've heard of more than a couple cases like that. What I meant is that there are better ways to ask which don't risk it being interpreted as misgendering. It's only polite.
Samantha 9th Jun 2016, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
It's unfortunately awkward to phrase, since we have centuries of men being the donor of material, whereas today we can do stuff like test tube babies, and are probably working on turning eggs into sperm and vice versa.
I imagine even after it was possible for two lesbians to take material from their eggs to have one have "lady sperm" they would still call her the "father." Persistent terminology, meh...
Dandelions42 7th Jun 2016, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
Rain, you are so adorable right now. Also, you're totally one of the baby's mothers. You are an adorable, adorable mother.
Eliza 7th Jun 2016, 11:30 PM edit delete reply
I understand perfectly how Rain is feeling... I went through a similar situation with my ex back in high school... except she miscarried... sorry... I really didn't mean to get a bit heavy there...
Outroller 8th Jun 2016, 1:29 AM edit delete reply
Wait. How is acknowledging the fact that her body is capable of providing sperm cells supposed to be misgendering?
Mina 8th Jun 2016, 8:45 AM edit delete reply
I think it means something like "you never misgendered me before, of course you wouldn't think I'm a father".
AndyB 8th Jun 2016, 2:31 AM edit delete reply
I got a different reference. Way back at the start of the story, Rain was asked what she wanted to be, and she said "a mommy."
j-eagle12212012 8th Jun 2016, 9:48 AM edit delete reply
I think she still wants that
Guest 9th Jun 2016, 4:58 PM edit delete reply
Silly Rain. There's a lot more to being a mommy than trying to squirt a whole person through your nether regions.

Source: Am a mommy
Tily 9th Jun 2016, 10:14 PM edit delete reply
true enough, BUT... some people desperately want to CARRY the child in their belly. And while they can transplant the uterus into another body, i very high;y doubt they will ever be able to do it into a biologically different gender =/

My eart just hurt for Rain in the last panels
Names are hard 8th Jun 2016, 2:37 AM edit delete reply
I totally took "doesn't need a boyfriend at all" to imply that she thinks Emily has some kind of hermaphrodite or intersex condition.
Guest 8th Jun 2016, 12:57 PM edit delete reply

I don't think there is any case of someone who is "intersex" having both sets of parts fully functional. (and even if humans could self fertilize, it would be akin to a biological brother and sister having babies, with all genetic and birth defect risks applied)

"I don't need a boyfriend" is not the same as "I don't need a source of sperm"
Sarah 9th Jun 2016, 2:36 PM edit delete reply
My guess is that she was thinking rape.
Guy Fieri is love 8th Jun 2016, 3:49 AM edit delete reply
Guy Fieri is love 8th Jun 2016, 3:51 AM edit delete reply
But seriously this one time my friend did something like that and it got me pretty depressed.
Tualha 8th Jun 2016, 6:38 AM edit delete reply
Yep, thought so. This is what was bothering Rain in #840. She's feeling the lack of a womb, knowing she'll never bear children. Ouch.
Mina 8th Jun 2016, 8:47 AM edit delete reply
Rudy, this isn't very nice to bring back this topic. :p

*Hugs Rain*
Nef 8th Jun 2016, 11:58 AM edit delete reply
When I met my wife, she was a pregnant (and divorced) high school student.

I married her when her baby boy was 2 years old. Over the years, I can tell you that I feel as much a parent to that kid, as I feel to the biological children that came after.

She might not see it that way now, but if Rain ends up forming a family with her girlfriend, she will be a parent too.
Jacy Em 8th Jun 2016, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
Ugh... This time of year I always go through a bit of a funk, because practically every woman and their best friend's sister is pregnant in this area of the country. This page really hit home today.
thatguyinthecorner 8th Jun 2016, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
Reminds me of this one time I was eating lunch and overheard some immature jackass I vaguely recognized going "Lesbian? Bitch is pregnant!" Half my brain wanted to go deck him and the other half was just going "sperm banks are a thing," argh.
Infected Genes 9th Jun 2016, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
ah yes the old pregnancy envy that all Trans women and other infertile women know only too well, if dysphoria and social rejection are the top two causes of depression in trans people than pregnancy envy is the third.
Ash 9th Jun 2016, 3:55 PM edit delete reply
Here we go, the pregnancy feels...... I get super depressed whenever one of my friends gets pregnant because I know that I will never get that joy....
leXie 9th Jun 2016, 5:01 PM edit delete reply
Judging from my wife's experiences, it's less "joy" and more "being brainwashed by your body" coupled with "really, really inconvenient biological changes"
Guest 26th Jun 2016, 6:31 PM edit delete reply
I knew that was why rain started to cry, she has always wanted to be a mom but never will :( poor girl.
MeWho 7th Nov 2018, 9:41 PM edit delete reply
That sadness, sort of empty part of life certainly was a component of why my life went where it did. Everyone has to seek their own answer to that issue.
Zoe-guest 20th May 2020, 2:56 AM edit delete reply
Waffle 1st Sep 2022, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
I have to assume it hurts more, since (as far as we know) wanting to be a mother was the first manifestation of her gender.
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