Comic 707 - Thanks

30th Jul 2015, 12:25 PM in Special
Average Rating: 5 (13 votes)
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Jocelyn 30th Jul 2015, 12:25 PM edit delete
In case you can't read my chicken scratch:

Dear Rain Beaus,

I never cease to feel overwhelmed by the love and support I receive from you. I know I've said this before, but I honestly never thought Rain was going to come this far. It's only thanks to you that I have had the confidence to keep this up for as long as I have. I've spent my life thinking nothing I ever did would matter, so it is an honor and a privilege knowing that what I do has touched the lives of so many wonderful people. And even if others don't understand or appreciate what I do, you are always here to remind me that YOU do. I don't know if there are any words that can truly express how much I love and appreciate you all. So let me just say again: Thanks! You really are the best fandom an author could ask for.

Most sincerely,
Jocelyn Samara


If you haven't heard, this is a response to some hate I've received from a reviewer and another webcomic artist. Or rather, it's a response to the amazing people who went out of their way to express their support while I let that hate get to me more than it should have.

People will think what they will. I'm going to be as strong as I can though, not just for myself, but for all of you who have genuinely learned or grown from my work (and of course, those who are just plain entertained by it). I will see this story through to the end, and I will move right on to the next one when it is over. I'll try not to let this stuff get to me anymore. The haters just aren't worth my time.
Jocelyn 31st Jul 2015, 7:31 AM edit delete
Small update: The comic artist has sent me a rather heartfelt apology. She seems legitimately remorseful and has in fact deleted all of her tweets on the matter, so I am willing to accept her apology. So for those of you who poked around and seeked her out to say something to her or who were planning on boycotting her comic (despite that all being what I was trying to avoid), it's okay. I know you mean well, but there's no reason to go after her. We're cool. Everything's cool.

The reviewer I'm a little less sympathetic for, on account of her continued attitude through all of this. And if you want to seek out the review and read it, that's fine. I won't stop you. HOWEVER, that said, I would still ask you to leave her alone. There's really no point in saying anything to her. I know you might want to defend my honor and I thank you for wanting to be there for me, but I honestly think the best way to help is to let this all be forgotten. If she comes around, she comes around. If not, oh well. I'd really rather see this whole situation get put in the past, never to be mentioned or heard about again, over being drawn out. Let's just let it go, all right?

Thank you, everyone. :)
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Eevee 30th Jul 2015, 12:30 PM edit delete reply
I think what I appreciate most about your comic is I can really see character development and even your art style is improving as the comic's such a great story, and I only regret reading it so fast because I'm always anxious for the next page...keep up the brilliant work :)
DocMesa 30th Jul 2015, 1:04 PM edit delete reply
I think I first found Rain a short while after joining an LGBT group on Giant in the Playground.

I'm cisgender and straight(ish) and I was talking to the LGBTers mostly out of curiosity. As time progressed, curiosity was replaced by a deepening affection and love for the group. There were quite a lot of times when I didn't understand terminology, especially with regards to transgender issues.

Your comic helps so, so much with that. The characters are real and engaging - they do good things, behave selfishly sometimes, even screw up royally on occasion. But that's because they're human. The pages where new concepts and gender/sexualities are introduced really help me to understand my LGBT friends.

Rain has made a big impact on my life and may well have influenced my future - I'm starting to study counselling and psychotherapy in the hope of becoming a gender therapist someday.

Thank you.
j-eagle12212012 30th Jul 2015, 1:12 PM edit delete reply
Thank you for being awsome Jocelyn. Your story means a lot to us.
Pyre Spirit 30th Jul 2015, 1:15 PM edit delete reply
I went and hunted down the review you were talking about.

It's rather a pathetic joke of a "review," and reads more like a self-obsessed jerk pontificating on a personal hobby horse than any critical examination of the source material - a tendency which continues in many of the other reviews.

It hurts when people are jerks like that, and there's really nothing that can take that sting away - but that review is a bad joke that reads more like an attempt to stir up controversy to bring traffic to the reviewer's site, something which they've done for a number of other comics, than anything resembling actual critique.

Rain is very good. Not perfect - but then nothing is - but by any reasonable standards an earnest, honest and successful attempt at portraying something meaningful and positive.

You've nothing to be ashamed of with it, and some self-obsessed asshat trying to peddle views for their meager opinions cannot detract from that.
Guest 31st Jul 2015, 10:09 PM edit delete reply
Could you possibly post a link to the article, I can't find it. I know I'm going to be angry when I read it but I need to satisfy my curiosity
Pyre Spirit 1st Aug 2015, 5:35 AM edit delete reply
Jocelyn said above that she doesn't want it mentioned or to hear about it, so I'm going to err on the side of that and not post a link to it, sorry!
Guest 30th Jul 2015, 1:31 PM edit delete reply
The reviewer didn't give a good review imo. Hell, they didn't even read the whole comic so it's like wtf? They just deemed it as transphobic and that's that. That's not how reviews are supposed to go and it bothers me thst because they have some personal issues themselves that they just outright gave your comic an F and claimed it's dangerous. That's just awful.
This comic is a slice of life focusing on the life of a transgirl. You're telling me that there won't be drama and transphobic characters?? Like wtf is that reviewer on. Your comic is on the more realistic side of trans issues and I really appreciate that. Please don't let that "review" bring you down. You're doing great!
SilentNight 30th Jul 2015, 1:45 PM edit delete reply
Same as DocMesa, I came here through the Giant in the Playground, finished the past five years in about two days. Jocelyn, you write an amazingly compelling, uplifting, powerful, and most importantly educational comic. Despite having talked with my genderqueer classmate about their identity, I never quite got it before I met Ky(lie). Thanks for all your hard work and looking forward to reading the rest!
Kristalcosmic 30th Jul 2015, 2:09 PM edit delete reply
This comic is amazing the reviewer couldn't understand that it is realistic. This is probably the best view of how my own life has been in comic form and that's why rain means so much because it resonates with me very well, it has helped me a lot and notice that even when things get bad they can improve and get better. I know this comic has helped many others in various ways, be it through cis people learning more about trans issues or trans people having something so genuine to relate to or the other various ways it can help. Keep doing what you are doing, you tell us to be strong for you, be strong for us :)
Hazel 30th Jul 2015, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
uh... i mean if you mean to call a bunch of people harassing people on the internet on your behalf "love and support" i guess you can do that...

- a disappointed fan

(furthermore, if someone is hurt by something, them saying so doesn't make them an asshole, as almost 100% of the commenters were saying? wtf?)
Jocelyn 30th Jul 2015, 3:50 PM edit delete reply

By love and support, I mean a bunch of people offering encouragement and kind words when I felt weak. I don't open up like this often, but it's appreciated that people will be there for me when I do.

As for harassing people on the internet on my behalf, I don't know anything about that. I specifically left the names of my offenders out of my posts because I don't want there to be a war. I don't want to damage their reputation even though they tried to damage mine. I simply want to express my feelings of hurt and frustration, and hopefully move on.

Dragonrider 30th Jul 2015, 3:06 PM edit delete reply
I believe I've said before I admire your courage in both living your life to the fullest and, in presenting the positive role model for others. May the Deities Bless and Keep you now and always.
Mina 30th Jul 2015, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
Everybody SHOULD read your comic! I mean, it's full of hope and happiness!

I don't really get it. Trans* webcomic writers are likely to be trans* as well. They know how it is to be despised, and yet some of them behave in this way... That's sad, for everybody.

Anyway, never forget you are awesome. ♥
Ciary 30th Jul 2015, 4:05 PM edit delete reply
Rain Beau Dash 30th Jul 2015, 4:16 PM edit delete reply
They can try to destroy Rain the comic, but they will never be able to destroy Rain in our hearts.

Dream of a Pebble 30th Jul 2015, 4:50 PM edit delete reply
Thank you.

1) For Rain.
2) For being the role model and trans advocate that you are.
3) For venting in an extraordinarily constructive way.
4) For not giving up.

Also, sorry for not seeing the original post (and therefore not commenting on it) yesterday. It's nice to see that you feel a bit better already.
Chris the Blue 30th Jul 2015, 5:10 PM edit delete reply
Chris the Blue
I can't understand how someone can hate on something as sweet and awesome as Rain.
Kaylan 30th Jul 2015, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
This comic series has gotten me through really tough spots in my transition. I'll never be able to properly communicate my gratitude for that. I love the style, the characters and everything about it! I wish I could actually meet Rain and give her a huge hug. Thanks for brightening my life with this comic. Keep it up!
asgromo 30th Jul 2015, 6:37 PM edit delete reply
OK hey just wanna comment on this as a trans woman who knows the purported hater in question. 1. Jocelyn, you are cool as hell and as an aspiring comic person myself I deeply respect your commitment to your story and to telling your own story, not necessarily what happened to you but one reflective of your own knowledge and experience. 2. She was way too harsh in her wording and I had a feeling this would happen. She is not really aware that she quickly got ahold of a megaphone this past year. She inadvertently made it a negaphone. You were the subject. That sucks. 3. However! She doesn't hate you, she doesn't want you to stop doing your comic, and she doesn't want to prevent others from reading it. She retracted her statements. She is aware she was rude. But no part of this was personal. 4. It is a serious difference of philosophy in storytelling reflected here that I've dealt with myself and she's talked about at length on many occasions. I have not always empathised with the endlessly upbeat wish fulfillment action of her own stories. But she feels that being positive about being trans is necessary, that it's important that it's done, and that to some degree, and I may be putting words in her mouth here, that it's too urgent to let transphobic people have their humanity, have their defense. Even though, frankly, the human race is overwhelmingly transphobic, myself as a trans woman hardly excluded! And that's what you do in your comic, for better or worse. You give people their due, even if they don't know what kind of problematic things they're saying or doing. Because that reflects your experience.

So, like I said, you might have been a little to quick to take her words as a personal attack, and it is simply silly to frame them as a "review". Trust me that she agrees about the trans experience with you on more counts than she disagrees. And despite her having been insensitive there, she is one of the more loving people I've ever met. So, uh, take of that what you will. And perhaps I'll finally finish getting caught up with your comic!
asgromo 30th Jul 2015, 6:55 PM edit delete reply
Addendum: totally misunderstood about the reviewer of your comic in question (have not read the review)and that it's not the same person! Disregard that bit! Sorry and thank you!
Danni 30th Jul 2015, 6:39 PM edit delete reply
I just finished reading your series from the start.
And although I have my snobbish criticisms. (Cuz I'm annoying like that) <3

I love how you've been able to capture the emotions and situations that effect so many of us transwomen out there.
I really didn't expect to cry as much as I did when Rain had her hair cut. It brought back memories of a similar event in my life.

Thanks for the beautiful story. And I'll keep shipping Gavin and Rain <3
Guest 30th Jul 2015, 7:10 PM edit delete reply
I read that review, and was appalled by that person's complete ignorance. They completely missed every point your comic makes! The whole world is not sunshine and butterflies, and Rain is an excellent depiction of the struggles LGBT teens face! I find their stance FAR more damaging to the trans community than your comic could ever be (which it isn't in the slightest). I feel like they're painting trans people in a super sensitive light, like everyone needs to walk on eggshells around them. We're people with very real, sometimes negative, experiences, and to expect someone to never talk about that and bring awareness to these issues we face is just ridiculous. Maybe your comic hits too close to home for them, Idk, but just because they can't handle realism doesn't make your comic bad, and CERTAINLY doesn't make it transphobic.
I love your comic Jocelyn (I've legit read it 4 times). I check all the time for new posts. Don't let one persons ignorance bring you down. You've helped so many of us <3
Lisa_J 30th Jul 2015, 11:34 PM edit delete reply
Keep writing. I'll keep reading.
Lemonado Girl 31st Jul 2015, 12:05 AM edit delete reply
I can't say I've found this "review," wherever it is, but just hearing about it makes me think it's a farce in poor taste at best, and outright obnoxious at worst, and unfortunately it's probably the latter. Rain isn't transphobic at all (if it were, I would not have read all the way up to basically the end of Chapter 24 in two days-I am very sensitive about that sort of thing), and rather has helped me answer some questions on my own identity. It's a great story, with powerful writing and accompanied by realistic views, as it should be, since it's slice of life. Let me just say that some of the crap Todd said right before Maria confronted him at the Halloween party made me want to break him on the spot. Father Quenton managed to similarly work me up. Since I was reading at night, I had a bit of a late night as my hatred for those two gave me a rather large and lasting adrenaline rush, and I think that goes to show how powerful the writing is. These are fictional characters and my body wants to fight them. Keep that up, no matter what the haters say.
My Thoughts 31st Jul 2015, 12:22 AM edit delete reply
I thought Rain was only on SmackJeeves and DeviantArt and apparantly it's here too! Rain is EVERYWHERE! lol. just wanna say that I feel ya gurl. this reviewer thinks just because it triggered them means it is dangerous. Your comic is not "horrible to trans people" like they said on their twitter account at all. It sounds like you are helping plenty of trans people actually. You haven't internalised transphobia, but it seems like you used to. thats ok. :)
Vana 31st Jul 2015, 12:36 AM edit delete reply
Wow! Rain is Hot Hot Hot!!!
Deep Throat 31st Jul 2015, 1:00 AM edit delete reply
Here is the review in question.

Mira 31st Jul 2015, 2:08 AM edit delete reply
Can't regonize the Rain I read from the review. Rain, stumbles trough very familiar question and I've enjoyed seeing how she grows as a character. Sure there are cissexist elements in Rain's thinking but becoming consious and fghting them is part of the journey she's on and you Jocelyn are doing great work portraying that awakeing.

I'm know to say things bluntly. That review is blollocks.

Xiane 31st Jul 2015, 2:57 AM edit delete reply
Internet reviews are like opinions and butt holes.

Everyone has one, some are louder than others and some really stink.

Love the comic don't let the opinions of a few dictate what you do or how you feel. You'll never please everyone, so focus on doing your best as you have thus far, some won't understand or like it, but the rest of us damn sure appreciate it!
Amanda 31st Jul 2015, 3:47 AM edit delete reply
All I can say about this, is... Rain volumes 1 and 2 arrived at my house a few days ago.

My 11 year old daughter read vol 1 in one sitting and is starting on volume 2 today. She's loving it and even though I'm more Ky than Rain, it's really helped her better understand what I've been going through these past few years.

What I like about Rain, is it feels REAL. Rain doesn't understand herself completely yet, those around her aren't always sure or certain... It just has that genuine feel to it. If it was all rainbows and sunshine, it just wouldn't have the same impact and feel.
All Unka 31st Jul 2015, 5:27 AM edit delete reply
I think the review just didn't *get* some of the things going on. Like, it said that the early jokes were about guys who ho-ho didn't realize that the girl they had crushes on HAD A PENIS or whatever.

But that wasn't what I got out of those scenes at all. What I took away from them was "Here's Rain, and she's completely freaking out, because she's sure that everyone's going to read her, and panicking over having to talk to people, and everything, and then! It turns out that she reads SO MUCH as a cute girl that she's getting buried in love letters, DESPITE all of her earlier panic!" The comedy is that Rain is encountering the *exact opposite* of her fears.

Well, that's my read on it, anyway. Granted, I'm just a fan; Jocelyn knows best what the intended joke was.

But that's what I got out of it.
Guest 31st Jul 2015, 8:07 AM edit delete reply
That review is completely ridiculous. Anyone who thinks Rain is a transphobic series has ZERO reading comprehension.
Dream of a Pebble 31st Jul 2015, 11:49 AM edit delete reply
Now that I read the review, it seemed like Rain may have managed to hit some old trauma. It also looks like the reviewer has got so much feedback on the review that they have stopped listening. And who knows, perhaps they are justified in feeling harassed by the horde of Rain fans...

Anyway, let's leave the poor person in peace and concentrate on the main point: reminding Jocelyn that she's a great person and artist. :)
steveha 31st Jul 2015, 6:28 PM edit delete reply
Rain is one of my favorite comics. I find the storylines engaging and the characters compelling.

That review was strange and shallow. She chooses to see the worst in the comic while missing the things I love about it. When Rudy's friends react badly to his Halloween costume, she assumes that this is Jocelyn expressing anti-trans sentiment through her characters... those characters are Rudy's friends and I read their reaction as having been to Rudy, not to the entire concept of cross-dressing. Yet this is taken as an example of the comic being "unrelentingly cissexist and transmisogynist". I'm not buying it.

Also, given that Rain got scored with an 'F' I decided to see what sort of comic got scored with an 'A'. I read through the archives for a comic rated A+ and found it to be lightweight fluff; I didn't hate it, but it didn't engage me at all.

So I wasn't impressed by the review and I wasn't impressed by the quality of the letter grades.

As I've said before, you need to write your own story... and you're doing it, and it's working. So just keep on doing what you're doing.

Thanks for making one of my favorite web comics.
Wolfsblood 24th Jan 2016, 2:07 AM edit delete reply
Jocelyn,I know I'm late to these comments, but I want to thank you for writing and illustrating an absolutely wonderful story. The characters are honest, and you make us care about them, both good and bad. THAT is a sure sign of a great writer. I don't know if you get updates on comments from this far back in the comic, but I love your work, and shared the link to the first page on a Facebook for other parents of transgender children. :) Hopefully you'll have more readers binge reading the comic :)
Some Ed 16th Jun 2017, 11:37 AM edit delete reply
Even though I've only recently come across this webcomic, I've been a fan of rain for something like 30 years. Back in college, I was the guy who'd walk around in the rain, carrying a closed umbrella, so I could show people I hadn't forgotten it. Of course, I did lend it to people who forgot theirs, as well.

Having read the deviantart page on this topic, I feel moved to give it a review as well. On a scale of -10 to 10, with -10 being the worst crap I can imagine, 0 being meh, and 10 being the most amazingly wonderful thing I could imagine, I'm giving Rain a solid 13/10. Because there's no way I could imagine a comic this awesome. I admit, it's not the best rating I've given on something, but I can't imagine how you'd improve it. Or even get to that point.

Thank you.
Guest 25th Apr 2019, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, Rain gets treated like dirt, especially in the early part of the story, but that's what makes it so good. I can't transition yet and I have to listen to my "accepting" (but really lacking in understanding) parents talk about my maleness all the time it feels like. So it's relatable content.

And yeah, don't learn about trans people from transphobic characters. But don't read Rain if you're so ignorant about trans people that you think that chapter 1 Maria, Gavin and Rudy are right.

Obviously, portrayals of transphobia in this comic are depicting things as they are, rather than as they should be. It's important stuff and there has to be room for stories like this to be told. We can't let the risk, that a cis will come across stories like Rain and misunderstand, stop trans people from expressing these important stories.

Katherine 9th May 2019, 10:44 PM edit delete reply
I have been with you reading Rain since 2014 (or so) after a friend told me about it. I stopped back in 2018 because of 'life, and stuff'. ive missed Rain and the crew. I started HRT myself back in December 2018 (at 40!) and there have been ups and downs and now that i am reading Rain from 'cover to cover', as it were, all over again... the messages this story presents have taken on a different light (for me at least). interplay between characters make more sense, and the love and support that the main cast have for one another is even more evident the second time through.

Ive seen the comments about the 'review'. and im not going to read it. simply because i KNOW what I think of Rain, and what Rain and her friends mean to me, and will continue to mean until the end, bitter-sweet or sweetly-bitter.

I struggled with being trans-female myself for many.... many years. when i found rain i was at a point of personal exploration and deep internal reflection. I am NOT going to say that Rain made all the difference in my path moving forward. but i WILL say that it was, is and will continue to be a form of silent support for me, and HAS made a difference to ME. every time Rain goes through a rough spot (the hair cut is an example) I can see parts of my life laid bare before me, events that have happened out of my control that have brought me to near ruin time and time again. and every time she picks herself up and pushes past it all to keep moving forward on her own or with the help of others... well, its heartwarming and at times brings true tears to my eyes, over and over again.


THANK YOU! Thank you for Rain and all of the lessons she is helping you tell, and all the people she helps in telling them.

God Bless.
no 12th Nov 2020, 1:58 AM edit delete reply
that review...
i love that they even acknowledged that it was supposed to be for realism, but then backtracked and said they couldn´t be certain it was for realism because they refused to complete it. and *then*, they chewed out a supporter in the comments for not looking deep enough into it to see what it really was!
the utter lack of self-awareness these people have is hilarious.
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