Comic 481 - Lady

14th Jan 2014, 6:10 PM in Ch. 19: Vincent's Story
Average Rating: 5 (11 votes)
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Jocelyn 14th Jan 2014, 6:10 PM edit delete
Well played, Vincent. It's good to laugh. I find having a good sense of humor has been kind of crucial to my transition. It helps separate the innocently uninformed comments from the malicious ones, and prevents unnecessary fighting or dysphoria. I speak purely for myself, of course, but being able to laugh is much preferred to feeling like I have to cry. But if you can adopt such a philosophy, I do think it's worth it. :)

Anyway "Ryan", Aiken, and Kellen's designs here are all loosely based how they looked on the first page (mind you, this is technically even before that). Again, this became tricky as even a year or two can be a big difference when kids are that young. Especially in the case of little "Ryan."

But actually, the most troublesome one here was Kellen. Quite inadvertantly, the ponytail she sports on the very first page is almost exactly the same as how Chanel wears it. I decided to move Kellen's ponytail up to a higher point on her head as a result. I mean, obviously Chanel wouldn't be here (she wasn't even born yet!), but I was worried about someone being confused, especially given the monochrome.

Rain, all characters and all other aspects of the story are copyright material belonging to me.
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Nightsky 14th Jan 2014, 6:21 PM edit delete reply
...This page does not do Aiken's reputation any favors. ^^;

...Also, is this the first time we're seeing their mom? I just went back to the first three pages, and I can't really remember seeing their mom's face before now...
Jocelyn 14th Jan 2014, 6:27 PM edit delete reply

You've seen her before. Admittedly, it was a while ago.

She's also vaguely seen in the bonus chapter in Volume 1. ^_^
Anna 15th Jan 2014, 3:56 PM edit delete reply
Is it not asking a bit much for an 11 year old to comprehend anything other than boobs=girl? I'd certainly not heard of transgenderism at that age. Blame him for his later actions, but don't hold this earlier observation against him.
Nightsky 15th Jan 2014, 4:37 PM edit delete reply
I was thinking more of the way he said it than the meaning. He could have said the same thing without sounding like he had an attitude.
Guest 11th Feb 2018, 8:47 PM edit delete reply
At 11 I definitely knew what trans people were. Sure, not everyone does, but Aiken was still rude regardless.
j-eagle12212012 14th Jan 2014, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
I agree with @Nightsky this page just doesn't help Aiken's rep at all
Guest 14th Jan 2014, 10:53 PM edit delete reply
Alright so someone help me figure this out. Technically your anatomy does define if your a male or femal
e , however if your physical a boy and you felt wrong like you were trapped in the wrong body then that would mentally make you a girl so mental determining on gender is all that matters right?
kyla 15th Jan 2014, 1:10 AM edit delete reply
When it comes to gender it's not all one way or the other and physical appearance does not determine ones gender. There are many factors like genes,hormones,etc. The best way to know ones gender is by the person themselves. As for your question, No your anatomy does not define your gender.
Jen Done 15th Jan 2014, 1:13 AM edit delete reply
I'm not sure how you could have gotten this far in the comic without having some idea of how sex and gender work, but here are the main points:

- Sex and gender are two different things. They're often intertwined with one another, but they are each distinct properties. The physiology of a person, particularly the nature of their reproductive organs, only determines their assigned sex. When doctors and parents declare "It's a boy!" or "It's a girl!" at a child's birth, this is actually a misnomer, since the assigned sex does not determine the gender of the child. The same is true of secondary sex characteristics (like breasts, facial hair, etc.) later in life, hence Aiken's error in thinking that if someone has boobs, they must be a girl. As such, one cannot be "physically a boy", because there is no bit of anatomy that determines gender, only sex in terms of male or female (or intersex).

- Assigned sex does not necessarily determine internalized sex. This means that the sex someone is assigned might conflict with their inner sense of what their sex is. One hypothesis for why this is states that male and female brains are oriented differently, and that if the brain configuration doesn't match the sex of the body, this results in body dysphoria, the sense that one's own body feels "wrong". The only feasible treatment for this - if any treatment is to be sought - is to transition physically from one sex to another. One does not choose their internalized sex. It's hardwired.

-Dysphoria comes in many forms and degrees and doesn't affect everyone in the same way. Someone who identifies as transsexual does not necessarily feel "trapped in the wrong body". Identifying oneself as female does not necessitate that all male-typical primary and secondary sex characteristics be changed to female-typical ones. Changing some of those characteristics might suffice for the purposes of transitioning. It all depends on the individual. There's no set goal for all transsexuals to follow, the only goal is to become more comfortable with oneself physically.

- Gender is an internalized sense of one's own feminine and masculine personality traits and where those traits place you in terms of associated social groups (men, women, etc). Gender is not necessarily determined by one's assigned sex, or even one's internalized sex. As such, you can get all kinds of combinations of sexed and gendered identities. Someone assigned male at birth could identify themselves as being both a woman and female, or one could identify as a woman and as male. Someone could have both genders at the same time, or switch from one to another, or have a different gender altogether, or have no gender at all.

The TL;DR answer to your question is, Yes, one's internalized sense of sex and gender determines how they identify and ought to be identified, not assigned sex.
DocMesa 15th Jan 2014, 4:06 AM edit delete reply
In defence of 2 year old Rain, she seems too interested in the rabbit plushie to be following the gender debate accurately. =3
Guest 15th Jan 2014, 7:35 AM edit delete reply
Alright I was just getting ones gender confused with ones sex I guess
Mackus 16th Jan 2014, 7:43 AM edit delete reply
Well, I guess they took it as well as possible.
No shouting, no insults, no disinheriting, no salvation camps.
Many families would be angrier at girl bringing home male rockstar, than Fara's family is here.

Wait, thats Liriel, not Fara's mother, correct? (lack of wrinkles implies so)
Jocelyn 16th Jan 2014, 8:11 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, that's Liriel. I don't plan on going into it much, but their parents just kinda aren't in the picture. So they are the closest family each of them has.

Liriel's a fair bit older than Fara (by ten years), but she still probably shouldn't have wrinkles yet. XD
KinglyPrince 18th Jan 2014, 11:45 PM edit delete reply
Frankly, I was always fond of calling mine "man boobs" or "my chesticles".
Ruth 12th Aug 2016, 9:36 AM edit delete reply
This title of this page brings me back to my childhood and one of my favorite songs from middle school.

"Lady" by Styx
LGBT_Izzy 26th Mar 2017, 9:25 PM edit delete reply
"Boob lady" Kill me *is dying from laughter* Just kill me XD
Trismegistus Shandy 11th Aug 2017, 10:31 AM edit delete reply
I think this is the first page where we've had the exact age difference between the twins and Rain specified. Although earlier pages hinted that the difference was at least five years.
skrbunny 13th Sep 2022, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
two year old Rain has same vibes as my youngest son... he'd have been a risk to say similar/same

so yeah, i died laughing :)
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