Comic 1389 - Offer

7th Jun 2021, 8:50 AM in Ch. 42 - One Day at a Time
Offer
Average Rating: 5 (9 votes)
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Jocelyn 7th Jun 2021, 8:50 AM edit delete
Jocelyn
Although they have been in each other's presence before, Ky and Ryan finally meet other today. Just some more cute, supportive interactions between new friends, as Ky tries to pass along the generosity Rudy offered them at prom. ^_^

The page is mostly pretty straightforward, so I don't have a whole lot to add here. But I was wishy-washy about one detail. I realize it's a little late to ask now, but I have no idea if it'd actually be considered "weird" to lend out one's binder. I don't know if it's an innocent act like lending a shirt to someone, or if it might raise a few eyebrows like lending your underwear to someone. I'm sure people's opinions on this matter may vary, but for purposes of the story I'm choosing to approach this from the most innocent angle possible.

If you like, share your stance on this.


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Dan 7th Jun 2021, 9:13 AM edit delete reply
Never commented before, but this feels appropriate since I have a bit of knowledge in the subject lol

I'm a trans man and know a few others from my city or around me. It might be because in Brazil we're pretty casual about physical contact, but there were two friends who offered to giveme his spare binder (back before I had one) and let me take a look at old binders he grew out of.

So I'd say it's not uncommon, but different people have different thoughts on it. To me, it's pretty realistic that Ky would lend her binder to Ryan
Anna Gartlin9 7th Jun 2021, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
Anna Gartlin9
awesome ryan and ky interacting. also ryan with binder cool :)
qwart22 7th Jun 2021, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
oh hey im here early
Chrissy 7th Jun 2021, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
Not certain about lending, but there was a monthly social event I used to go to that was organized by a trans guys support group. On multiple occasions they brought a Rubbermaid bin full of binders that they gave to guys that needed them. They also put on a pool party, and I brought a bunch of pairs of swim trunks for guys that needed them.
Kyle 7th Jun 2021, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
That's very sweet of Ky!
codycola 7th Jun 2021, 9:58 AM edit delete reply
binders can get pretty sweaty, which might make some people uncomfortable with sharing, but my first binder was a hand-me-down! otherwise I would just wonder if ky and ryan are the same size? I’m assuming that won’t be a problem for plot convenience, but having a too small binder can be pretty uncomfortable and dangerous :\
Long-Time Lurker 7th Jun 2021, 10:38 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, I was wondering that too. Although maybe the reason Ky never wears this one is she was cautious on the sizing for her first binder and realized she need a size smaller so this is just a backup? (I did this.)

But ahhhh. So wholesome. <3
Absentia 8th Jun 2021, 2:22 AM edit delete reply
actually it was her sister who bought her her first one. so the sizing issue could actually be true, i doubt Heather measured ky before buying it.
Guest 7th Jun 2021, 10:33 AM edit delete reply
As a trans guy, this interaction seems sweet. Binders can be hard to get since you can only find them online and at specific places like GC2B or Windworks or... that’s kind of it. For Ryan, this is a big deal.
bgb16999 7th Jun 2021, 10:50 AM edit delete reply
bgb16999
I'm looking forward to seeing what Ryan looks like in a binder.
Cairo 7th Jun 2021, 10:54 AM edit delete reply
It's pretty normal to swap clean binders! Many, many young trans dudes get a used binder as their first binder. (Also, everyone assumes you can't go in a pool with a binder under a shirt but you totally can, if it's a good binder. I've done it in public pools and no one has looked twice. Not a story critique just a tip to other trans guys haha)
Ariadne 7th Jun 2021, 12:26 PM edit delete reply
Not that Ryan would need to worry about that whilst among supportive friends like these
LadyAnastasia 7th Jun 2021, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
LadyAnastasia
I'm really happy for Ryan :3

I do hope that these kids do know about the dangers of over-using binders, or using too-tight of binders. Friend of mine very much overused theirs and was worried they wouldn't be able to have breast reduction surgery due to complications. (luckily they could, and they feel a lot better now <3)
Phrown 7th Jun 2021, 11:45 AM edit delete reply
What kind of complications could overusing a binder cause?
Chrissy 7th Jun 2021, 1:45 PM edit delete reply
Possible complications of improper binding (using a binder too long, doubling up binders, using ace bandages instead....) can be breathing dificulty, broken ribs, and other issues in the chest cavity.
LadyAnastasia 7th Jun 2021, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
LadyAnastasia
Here's a good quote that sums it up: "That said, even a dedicated binder is not without risk, and binding improperly or for too long can lead to chest and back pain, rib bruising and fractures, shortness of breath, overheating, and skin damage." (from https://www.prideinpractice.org/articles/chest-binding-physician-guide/)

And I want to be clear. I'm not telling people to not use binders. Use them! But I believe in informed consent, where you know the risks of what you do and make your own decision.
Willowstream646 7th Jun 2021, 12:05 PM edit delete reply
I know someone who actually broke a few of their ribs binding too much and too small. Stay safe lovelies!!
bandana_girl 7th Jun 2021, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
I really hope that Ky learns this the easy way because binders are rather important for genderfluid folks where at least one gender wants tits and at least one wants flat. I'm just glad that most of mine are okay with tits and I don't have to worry about wearing a binder half the time.
Gilly 7th Jun 2021, 11:02 AM edit delete reply
hard cringe

that is... not safe

Sizing is important
J 7th Jun 2021, 1:52 PM edit delete reply
I wouldn't phrase it as "cringe" but have to agree, in my experiences as a trans guy I've never leant a binder to anyone due to sizing being so important. Like punctured lungs and cracked ribs important.
Star 7th Jun 2021, 2:07 PM edit delete reply
Honestly, for a few hours and they seem similarly sized in relation to eachother I doubt it’s an issue for this short time period
J 11th Jun 2021, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
But you have to think about the people who read this comic, particularly younger trans men, who might run into trouble from thinking borrowing a binder or wearing an improper size is okay
Rad 7th Jun 2021, 11:13 AM edit delete reply
I'm a trans man (who just got top surgery this past week, so no more binders for me! - once I'm out of this surgery binder, haha) and when I first started transitioning, a friend of a friend gave me a bunch of his old binders to try on to see if they would work for me. They fit perfectly, and I ended up wearing them until I got surgery. I'd say as long as they're clean, there's nothing weird about offering to let someone wear your binder. There's sort of a sense of solidarity about that with trans masc folks/AFAB NB people who bind.
Wisdom_Pen 7th Jun 2021, 11:30 AM edit delete reply
Recently discovered that I am also Gender Fluid except that my gender only goes between female and agender/gendervoid and even when I am feeling void of gender I still prefer female pronouns and mostly still like presenting as female, I don't know if when I get boobs for my crippling chest dysphoria it will give me an opposing dysphoria for HAVING a chest but I am willing to roll that dice.
anonymous 7th Jun 2021, 11:59 PM edit delete reply
have you heard of the term genderflux? its where your gender 'intensity' changes i suppose, like you fluctuate between agender and girl for example, and its the intensity that changes. 0% girl, 50% girl, 100% girl, ect.
i dont know if im explaining this well at all, id recommend looking it up, and im sorry if im stepping out of line! i dont mean to say you arent gender fluid, just hoping to introduce you to a term you may not of known, in case it does turn out to be accurate
im glad you discovered yourself! good luck with your transition :D
Guest 9th Jun 2021, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, you're explaining it right. I'm genderflux and that comment sounds a lot like me. I always look like a guy and prefer to be treated like one. That said, I don't have a girl mode at all, just guy modes of varying intensity and some days no gender at all.

(As for pronouns, I'd use they/them on the not so binary days if I could but my language doesn't have them. He/him is always at least partially ok.)
SometimesIReadComics 7th Jun 2021, 11:39 AM edit delete reply
Binder bros! 🤜🤛
Selena 000 7th Jun 2021, 1:30 PM edit delete reply
YESSS, I was hoping for something like this to happen^^
arkathenia 7th Jun 2021, 2:25 PM edit delete reply
Ky is such a lifesaver, she is so wonderful <3
arkathenia 7th Jun 2021, 2:25 PM edit delete reply
Also, I just realized. Ky got saved by Ruby at prom. Now, she's spreading the good will to Ryan, who also got helped by Gavin. This comic makes me so happy ;') <3 <3
anonymous 7th Jun 2021, 9:26 PM edit delete reply
did you refer to rudy as ruby in purpose? it was just stated in the last page that he is a guy.
Neelix 8th Jun 2021, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Yes, but that has never stopped him calling himself Ruby any time he's dressed as a girl.
Given that the circumstances being described in arkathenia's comment resulted in Rudy being Ruby for the rest of the night in question, it seems an appropriate use of the name to me.
Julia_ 8th Jun 2021, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
Julia_
We're not exactly sure what Rudy prefers to be referred to as when referencing past crossdressing events. He does go by Ruby while crossdressing, so it wouldn't be abnormal to refer to him dressed up, as Ruby. It's a person to person thing that we don't know specifically, though we probably should just say Rudy to be safe.
arkathenia 9th Jun 2021, 2:20 PM edit delete reply
Yes, I did refer to him as Ruby, as it's cute <3 He did only save Ky as Ruby
Absentia 8th Jun 2021, 2:25 AM edit delete reply
literally this entire friend group is just friends helping friends, all the way back to even before Rain got there. she was jsut a catalyst that increased the scale.
arkathenia 9th Jun 2021, 2:21 PM edit delete reply
Oh yeah, good point. Maria was spared from suspicion by 'dating' Gavin. Their friend group has gotten so big, lately <3
Pseudonym 7th Jun 2021, 5:17 PM edit delete reply
Oh, darn. I there a good way to compliment a trans guy for something that's usually considered feminine? Ryan's been downright adorable when he gets excited, but it feels wrong to put it like that.
Absentia 8th Jun 2021, 2:28 AM edit delete reply
as a cis male, i would like to say

guys like being called adorable too. at least i do. no one calls us adorable because people think its a feminine word, but i absolutely LOVE it on the rare occasions its said to me. same with words like cute, or actions like being brought flowers or shit. any expression of positive emotion towards a guy, or even jsut the knowledge that said guy is allowed to express his own emotion, is usually favorably viewed by those not poisoned by too much toxicity.

Pseudonym 8th Jun 2021, 6:54 PM edit delete reply
Oh, aye. Speaking as another cis guy, messing with preconceptions and society's standards is a hoot. If a cis dude likes it, so much the better; if not, it can still be done in good fun, and the guy could probably do with having his views shook up a little anyway.

But I also know that for a lot of trans guys, presenting & being seen & treated as a guy isn't a matter of furnish pants, operate door, but a major difficulty & worry. They probably loathe reminders of femininity. It's true, we should let guys express themselves, and if we think they're being girly, call them girly, nbd, who cares? Doing it about trans guys still makes me feel like a total dick, even as a compliment.
Absentia 9th Jun 2021, 5:10 AM edit delete reply
or... we remove the ideas of "adorable" or "emotional" from any sort of gender binary as a whole. less "this man is acting girly by showing his emotions" and more "this man is showing his emotions." remove the ideas from gender entirely so no one needs to feel uncomfortable being called them, regardless of gender.
Cam 7th Jun 2021, 5:25 PM edit delete reply
Uhh something something *trans*action joke
doombird 7th Jun 2021, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
[40% too loud] IS THIS A LEGALLY BINDING TRANSACTION
bgb16999 8th Jun 2021, 5:03 PM edit delete reply
bgb16999
Not a small one though. It's not a micro trans action.
Seed 7th Jun 2021, 6:15 PM edit delete reply
As a transmasculine enby, the only thing that worries me is that Ky is much smaller than Ryan, so I don't know if using her binder would be safe for him. It's very dangerous to use the wrong size, so I hope they both have that in mind.
bandana_girl 7th Jun 2021, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
Wait, if Ryan gets a binder that works at least temporarily, gc2b at least says that their binders are good to swim in (though mention you should hear a size up if you're doing strenuous activities). That would mean that if, say, Gavin had an extra pair of swimming trunks for him to borrow, it might be possible for him to get in the water.
Denver 2nd Oct 2021, 3:46 AM edit delete reply
As a genderfluid person who binds, I don’t think it’s weird to offer to lend a binder to a friend, but I would worry about whether or not it’s the right size. Sizing is very important and it can be dangerous if it’s the wrong size
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