So, just to quickly run through the first few panels if you need any refreshers: Gavin gave his blazer to Ryan at prom, which helped him deal with his dysphoria.
Rudy has pretty notoriously outed both Rain and Maria before, so of course, they're happy to hear he's making any kind of effort to not do that now.
And did St. Hallvard get gayer after Isaac left the year before? Well, at the very least, Maria, Rudy, Emily, Drew, and Randy were all there the year before. But most of them weren't out yet, and chances are likely that there were plenty of others who would go on to not realize or come out for years to come. Or plenty who simply choose to remain stealth. Case in point: Ana.
But the real focus of this page is Debbie texting with Emily. For what it's worth, not every kid in the story will be coming to this party. This week's pages will feature a lot of cameos from those who couldn't make it.
It might be a surprise for some of you to hear Debbie was invited, though. However, she is Emily's friend, and they are on speaking terms again. I wonder if there is any chance Debbie and Rain could've be friends, though. What do you think? :)
Friendly reminder that Rain is now available in French (courtesy of the translation of my friend, Mia)! We're up to nine chapters now live as of this weekend, and more will go up every Saturday. ^_^
While I know most of you can and probably do already read in English, the option is there if you're bilingual, or if you know anyone who is more comfortable reading in French that you think might enjoy the story. I invite you to share this with anyone you think this might benefit. ^_^
I'm not certain on Debbie. She's been better than she once was (she did call Rain out about being trans, after all, not that Madison believed her). And after the mall incident, we definitely saw that her brothers are a handful, and not able to be trusted to not get into mischief.
And on Rudy.. he's getting better, but still outed Ryan to Gavin without permission. Not nearly as direct as outing Rain and Maria, but still...
Does Debbie know that Rain is trans? I think there was an arc before prom where she was suspicious of Rain, but it wasn't made clear as to whether Debbie had pieced anything together or not.
On that note, is Emily out to Debbie? I can't remember.
Debbie asked Rain if she got Emily pregnant, guessed out loud that Rain wasn't cis (to a classmate who didn't believe it), heard her little brothers misgender Rain at the mall, and basically put the pieces together after overhearing Rain checking into prom (Comic 1145 - Doesn't Matter). For the rest of prom, Debbie seems to realize that she shouldn't be questioning Rain's gender, and makes an effort to that effect, but is still vocal about not liking her.
I don't think Debbie has ever been nice to Rain, but she does seem to have a turning point at prom.
I might not be the best person to answer because I don't 100% remember, hopefully, someone else can hop on and be more confident in their response. From what I remember Debbie pretty much knows from being nosy and not letting things go, but she was able to learn she'd gone too far before she talked about it with anyone who knows. So I think she is in an "oh, it isn't my business" mindset although to get there she really made it her business and pretty much figured it out. Also, I think I remember Emily being out to Debbie but as kind of an offscreen thing where Debbie knows Emily isn't straight but from some conversation that happened outside of the main story.
Again, I don't remember perfectly and I'm sorry if I got any of this wrong
oh how did I forget about Ranily's prom kiss‽ That's why Debbie knows Emily isn't straight in Conditioned, not because Emily specifically came out to her or Holly. Still, thanks luminette and RainDrizzle for the memory jogging
I feel like if Debbie were here, Rain would be a lot more guarded, and she might have avoided coming out to Ryan, or at least tried to do it in private where Debbie couldn't hear her.
But they graduated already and rain wants to be more open about it (along with being surrounded by friends and family), so is there a reason not for her to tell Debbie? Even if she didn't accept she would probably listen to Emily anyway
fear? Debbie's already almost clocked her once. Rain's bound to be more careful and restrictive of information around her now.
although, it would really depend on how Debbie would react to Ryan's coming out. if she had a positive reaction, Rain might actually consider telling her more.
Right now? I think it would be hard for Debbie and Rain to be friends, as the woulds are still somewhat fresh. One or two years from now, I think they could. They're both maturing a lot, and if they learn to understand each other and Debbie recognizes her past mistakes - at least to herself - then I think they could become friends. Their connection to Emily can help with that.
"It's so amazing that almost everyone at this party besides you and Gavin is queer or trans in some way."
This is so funny to me and I don't know why. Maybe it's just how stealthy Ana is that nobody knows.
Come to think of it, is Ana trans? I know she's had surgery, I know she presented as a boy (can I say "lived as a boy"?) before turning out to be a girl and then a young woman. But I know very little about being intersex and how that figures into it.
Or is this part of Ana for her to know and for us to not ask?
Ana's intersex, yeah. If she was a real person I'd respect her wish to put it behind her.
As that's not a factor, I'd like to learn the right words to call a situation like hers. I know very little about how being intersexed interacts with being trans. Also, I'm nosy.
She's rejected and transitioned away from the gender she was assigned. In most cases that'd mean being trans. But in her case it's gender she was assigned surgically, instead of socially at birth. Does that make a difference? Is she trans? Was she trans, but is now cis? Did the surgery she had count as SRS when it was repairing another surgeon's mistake?
ahh! so glad that emily and debbie are friends again now that debbie apologized :) good for both of them for being willing to move on and put the high school bullshit filter behind them, haha
Wait where's the "next" button? .... Oh wow I'm caught up! It's been... A while! Last time I was caught up on Rain was before I started hrt, and I'm coming up on three years, so...
Props to Rudy for the growth!
And on Rudy.. he's getting better, but still outed Ryan to Gavin without permission. Not nearly as direct as outing Rain and Maria, but still...
On that note, is Emily out to Debbie? I can't remember.
I don't think Debbie has ever been nice to Rain, but she does seem to have a turning point at prom.
Again, I don't remember perfectly and I'm sorry if I got any of this wrong
although, it would really depend on how Debbie would react to Ryan's coming out. if she had a positive reaction, Rain might actually consider telling her more.
This is so funny to me and I don't know why. Maybe it's just how stealthy Ana is that nobody knows.
Or is this part of Ana for her to know and for us to not ask?
As that's not a factor, I'd like to learn the right words to call a situation like hers. I know very little about how being intersexed interacts with being trans. Also, I'm nosy.
She's rejected and transitioned away from the gender she was assigned. In most cases that'd mean being trans. But in her case it's gender she was assigned surgically, instead of socially at birth. Does that make a difference? Is she trans? Was she trans, but is now cis? Did the surgery she had count as SRS when it was repairing another surgeon's mistake?