Comic 1161 - The Reveal, Part 2

17th May 2019, 8:50 AM in Ch. 37 - Prom Night
The Reveal, Part 2
Average Rating: 4.78 (9 votes)
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Jocelyn 17th May 2019, 8:50 AM edit delete
At long last, we see the other party show their new look to their satisfaction. ^_^

And yes: "their". As in, singular they/them/their pronouns (they never said boy mode; just that they explicitly weren't in girl mode). Ky is feeling more androgynous. So switching from one polar extreme gender expression to the other, therefore might not necessarily have helped them right now. But changing into the tux, while keeping their earrings and heels (not yet shown), offers more relief for the kid. Even without the binder. (I realize this might not necessarily be optimal for everyone in Ky's position, but for them, right now, this is what they needed.)

I know Ky hasn't exhibited androgyny too often in the story, but this has been known to happen. They described the situation a while back if you need a refresher. ^_^

Now, of course most of Ky's friends are just glad to see them so genuinely happy. Poor kid's been struggling all night up until now, and surely Rain and friends were worried. But then there's Drew who has a struggle of his own to work through.

Whatever happens next, Drew's moment of truth is nearly upon us. Thoughts? Will something finally click for him, or...?

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sessy 17th May 2019, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
Ok, who didn't see this coming...?
Ciary 17th May 2019, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
ye ...

I'm afraid of drew :-(
did Jocelyn ever used such a dark, eye obscured by shadow, menacing expression before?
help :-/
please don't them ...
Chrissy 17th May 2019, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
Regarding the menacing eyes, there's just a couple I can think of anywhere close - This page with Rain's dad, but it's not quite the same and I seem to remember one with Maria having red eyes, but I don't remember where in the story that was.
Artemis Bear Queen 17th May 2019, 10:32 AM edit delete reply
Pretty sure we saw Dark Eyes like this on Rain's father in flashback, and her sister the night before she attacked Rain.
KK 17th May 2019, 10:59 AM edit delete reply
This is an expression seen when there is a lot of negative emotion. We've seen it on Rudy when he was being assaulted by Todd, Ky after being outed to Holly and Devon, and Rain after being rejected by Ky as well as when she thought Emily was turning her down.
Chrissy 17th May 2019, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
I love it. Ky looks much more comfortable (and, to me, more like Ky) in the suit. And the hair clip will probably help Ruby a bit more.

Drew, you better not fuck this up any more than that reaction already has.
Drake Zephyr 17th May 2019, 9:30 AM edit delete reply
Drake Zephyr
I really don't think Drew is acting too Selfish. He cares about his image at a time where self image is crucial. He feels like this is just strange and stuff. I'm not saying he isn't acting like a bit of a jerk here, but it's a predictable and understandable reaction. Try to look at it from his perspective before you all pass judgement.
Anastasia 17th May 2019, 10:28 AM edit delete reply

This is /incredibly/ selfish. If he’s so worried about his “image” which is about to be irrelevant when he graduates, just dump Ky. He doesn’t need to control Ky.
Lynn 17th May 2019, 10:53 AM edit delete reply
I understand why he feels uncomfortable and even a little angry. It even makes sense for him to act this way based on his character. But it is *absolutely* selfish. Ky can't just stop being in androgynous mode, and wearing a dress was making them miserable. Drew has a lot of internalized homophobia, which he *can* overcome, and he has been asked to work on overcoming it multiple times now. But he's done nothing to overcome it, and now he's taking it out on Ky. He would rather Ky be miserable for the entire night so that he can avoid uncomfortable questions from his classmates - classmates he's only going to see for another couple weeks before graduation!

No, Drew is absolutely in the wrong here.
Pseudonym 17th May 2019, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
If I was informed that I would now be outed, have fun with that, I'd be petty about it too.
Vulcan 18th May 2019, 8:30 PM edit delete reply
To be fair, teenagers are widely known for being pretty selfish in general.

Unfair to Ky? Absolutely. But let's face it, this is not an atypical teen reaction.
Guest 17th May 2019, 6:24 PM edit delete reply
Lol they're just wearing a tux. Obviously Ky isn't a girl right now, but other random students probably read them as a girl in a tux, which is a totally normal and socially acceptable role, even in 2013 cis society.

Basically, this doesn't out Drew. If anyone asks, Ky can say they're non-binary and then all the ignorant students will just make helicopter jokes. Ky then gets upset but everyone looks at Drew thinking that he's straight because they can all see the shape of Ky's chest and assume that Drew takes Ky's gender as unseriously as the rest of them do.

So Ky's the one who loses out here, not Drew. Obviously Drew should defend Ky by coming out as not straight, but that's on him to either be a good boyfriend or not. And I think that Ky shouldn't blame him if he does stay silent just because he isn't ready to come out. Having your gender ridiculed sucks so so much, but Ky is putting themselves out there, and they have plenty of other friends who are capable of defending them.
Drake Zephyr 17th May 2019, 7:01 PM edit delete reply
Drake Zephyr
Okay, maybe I just used a bad choice of words! But you also gotta look from his perspective. And I feel like I'm probably the closest one who can do that. And for Drew, in a school with a ton of straight Catholic students, he'd be destroyed. He's not thinking straight sure, and yes he is acting selfish. My bad on that it was 9 in the morning! And maybe it's the right thing for Drew to come out as not straight, but Drew is also an LGBTQ+ character here guys. I feel like you guys are so focused on Ky that you forget Drew is also mentally going threw a lot and nobody should have to come out if they don't want to. I do think he cares about Ky, a lot. But self preservation for him he sees as important. And he's still in a really complicated position.
Some Ed 17th May 2019, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
I think a lot of us are looking at Drew's perspective, but we've moved past that point having seen the errors of our ways.

I was technically never one to make a scene like Drew is, but a large part of that is that I've had a flattened affect for longer than I'd properly understood what gender norms were, and even after I understood what gender norms were.

When operating with a flattened affect, it doesn't take too long to notice that panic gets a lot more attention than casual. If anyone is outing Drew right now, it's Drew.

Just to be clear on my position, I'm not upset with Drew. I'm sad for them. But even with the perspective I had when I was in high school, I knew that screaming about things causes people to notice. If he wasn't making a scene to this level, he'd probably be able to get out of it without getting much grief from it. As things stand, he's going to lose on all counts with this behavior.
FishEye18 17th May 2019, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
Damnit Drew, you had one job! One job!
Kyle 17th May 2019, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
I am really disappointed. I thought Drew might've lightened up with Ky's fluidity, but I guess I was wrong. I don't know what it's going to take to get him to stop being so superficial, as if it's even possible at this point. UGH!!!

On a positive note: I think Ky looks fantastic in the tux.
Me 17th May 2019, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
He's not being superficial. He's worried about being outed, which is something he's not ready for. He's being a dick about it, but he's not feeling anything that doesn't make complete sense for any closeted LGBT kid to feel. Especially one raised in a seemingly incredibly religious and conservative environment.
Guest 17th May 2019, 7:29 PM edit delete reply
Weren't there multiple comics about him loudly proclaiming he is questioning his sexuality to everyone before, or am i misremembering things?
j-eagle12212012 17th May 2019, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
Jocelyn did say that Drew's moment of Truth is soon, I think Rain and the gang are going to try to get him to understand. I hope Drew can understand and realize that public opinion is not as important as the feelings of the one you're with. It's going to be a long weekend wait
KK 17th May 2019, 10:07 AM edit delete reply
I actually feel for Drew here a little bit. Not necessarily the asking "how can you do this to me" part because it's not about him, but he is terrified of being bullied.

That being said, he is already being picked on and everyone already knows he's into guys, and he was warned that this could happen, so it seems like his fear is a little irrational.
DocMesa 17th May 2019, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
A lot of fears are often irrational to an outside perspective. Still utterly terrifying to the poor schmuck experiencing it.
Anastasia 17th May 2019, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
Fuck. I’m scared of Drew right now.

Ky looks amazing though :3
Artemis Bear Queen 17th May 2019, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
Heck off, Drew.
Guest 17th May 2019, 11:40 AM edit delete reply
Dammit Drew! I really hope he surprises everyone and accepts Ky. If this interaction doesn't end well, perhaps he could make up for it with a grand romantic gesture showing his feelings for Ky to everyone at prom? They just make such a cute couple, and I would hate to see it end with Drew being an asshole.
Sarah 17th May 2019, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
We all know that Drew is "wrong" here, but this characterization of him is not "bad". It's a reaction that you can 100% expect from well-meaning people in a relationship who just don't understand that it's not about them. To them, it is partially about them because they are worried about how THEY will be perceived. I like that this comic portrays real attitudes that real people have, and shows the consequences of those attitudes instead of having zero conflict, and shows the character grow and change their attitude.

I don't like that people are immediately jumping on the "Drew is a horrible person" bandwagon. Knowing his backstory, he is not intentionally abusive, and wants to understand but just doesn't. I just hope that Drew learns to understand that it's *not* about him, and not feel like he's being threatened.
seikueon 17th May 2019, 12:08 PM edit delete reply
Oh no! Let's all get mad at the high schooler that doesn't want to get outted after he sees how everyone treats Rudy! And Maria!

No, I do think Ky is forgetting that it isn't all about them.

After all, it's not like Rain and Emily are out.

Ky never has to see these people again if they don't want to. Obviously, Drew could have kept his distance, like he said he would, when giving Ky the tickets. But getting mad at questioning and closeted people is really messed up. It's as harmful as what Drew's been doing to Ky.

Drew should shape up. But Ky should have 100% let Drew know what was going on. "I plan on changing outfits. If hanging out with me for the rest of the night is not something you're comfortable with, then we'll separate here. But I'm not comfortable dating someone in the closet."

You have a right to be in the closet no matter your motivations. You have the right to tell your partner you aren't interested in the circumstances. It's /consent/. Something Ky seems to have forgotten in their own feelings. I don't know why this is so hard to consider. After all, Collette has decided he has no intentions of leaving drab until after graduation. No one's calling him selfish.

I'm not piling on Ky. You all seem to have a grasp of why their comfort and identity is important, as it's everyone's comments and it's in the narrative. I don't need to assure everyone that I'm not underminding their feelings.

I just still don't get why Drew is always painted as all wrong. In an ideal world where there was no need for a closet, he'd be unreasonable. But he's not. His own feelings and comfort aren't any less just because he's cis and projecting "straight".

Obviously, ideally, he'd handle his "girl in a suit" date everyone's going to see.
Neelix 17th May 2019, 12:12 PM edit delete reply
Oh dear... you know my first thought was that Drew should spend the evening dancing with Ruby. ;) But I don't think Ruby would like spending that much time with him, and as I suspect almost all the St Hallvard's students would pretty quickly recognise who Ruby is I rather suspect it would only fuel any rumours...

That being said I can't help thinking the best thing that could happen at this point would be for one of Drew's friends (eg Rob or Randy or even Devon) to be observing his little freak-out, tap him on the shoulder and tell him to chill out.
Guest 17th May 2019, 3:51 PM edit delete reply
Oooh I ship Drewby :)
Some Ed 17th May 2019, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
If this place is like my high school, and Drew wants to appear manly according to his peers, he should stick with the partner whose sex chromosomes don't match his.

Dancing with a known gay guy, regardless of how well that gay guy passes, and having that found out would get him the ridicule of being gay.

But a guy dancing with someone who was assigned female at birth who's wearing a tux and not passing for a guy would not, especially if he told people afterwards he thought it was really weird the way they were dressed.
DocMesa 17th May 2019, 12:24 PM edit delete reply
Well this is utterly disheartening. Drew hasn't learned anything. I was really hoping for a different ending, showing some positive development for him, even if he and Ky don't get together.

At least the comment section will enjoy tearing him a new one. Again.
Guest 17th May 2019, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
Awwww,Ky looks so good!
Mavis the Rain Beau 17th May 2019, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
Normally, I would have argued in favor of Drew, if only to be different, but we have a very split comment section, so I'm just gonna say Ky looks amazing
Guest 17th May 2019, 1:27 PM edit delete reply
Really hoping Emily is the one to call out Drew in this situation. He must be reminding her of herself at this time last year, when she was forcing Blair to stay in the closet because of how him coming out would reflect on her. Not to mention that prom is where they broke up -- the parallels are too good to ignore!
bgb16999 17th May 2019, 2:13 PM edit delete reply
Even though this isn’t so different from how he’s reacted in the past, I had really expected Drew to be better now. It was a shock turning the page and seeing this:(
WaywardS0ci0path 17th May 2019, 2:22 PM edit delete reply
Androgynous Ky is my favorite, especially in the second-last panel. I think it’s their hair
WaywardS0ci0path 17th May 2019, 2:37 PM edit delete reply
And to everyone saying that Drew is right to be mad at Ky, no, he wasn’t. He knew there was a possibility of him being outed before he came to prom, he and Ky discussed that. He knew there was a possibility that Ky could be in girl mode, boy mode, or enby mode (we’re making that a thing). He was already scared of this exact situation because he knew it was a possibility, but he still invited them. Therefore, since he made that choice knowing the chances of Ky not being a girl that night, he forfeited his right to complain. And it’s not like Ky looks overpoweringly masculine either. The suit doesn’t mean that everyone will see them as a boy. If he’s worried about people judging him, they aren’t people he needs in his life anyways. If you don’t want to be outed, either don’t take the gender fluid person to prom, or just don't date the gender fluid person. You knew the risks, Drew.
Fox 17th May 2019, 2:57 PM edit delete reply
Very true, I do think his fear of being outed is valid, but he made a choice and he has to live with it.
Fox 17th May 2019, 2:43 PM edit delete reply
I understand Drew's anger, which is based in fear, but this isn't something Ky is "doing to" him. He has the right to be in the closet and to stay there, he does not have the right to insist Ky climb into the closet with him. Ky told him this was a possibility, their gender isn't a choice, and while his fear is understandable, his reaction is cruel and selfish. I really hope that this turns around, but frankly Drew doesn't have to worry about what other people think if he just chooses to tell Ky he's not comfortable being out and would like to stay separate from them for the rest of the evening.
Basically, both Ky's feelings and Drew's feelings are valid, but Drew doesn't get to demand Ky be in the closet for him, anymore than Ky gets to demand Drew come out for them.
The reason I think so many people are angry with Drew and not Ky, is because Ky isn't asking anything of Drew, they're just being themself and doing what they need to be comfortable, something they specifically warned Drew was a possibility. Drew on the other hand, is essentially expecting Ky to crawl back into the closet for him and dress in a way that makes them miserable all night because it makes Him comfortable and that is selfish and wrong, you don't get to dictate to someone else who they get to be, no matter what your relationship is to them. Asking someone to change hurtful behavior is fine, but asking someone to change who they are for you is emotionally abusive and controlling.
A very closeted bigirl 17th May 2019, 3:48 PM edit delete reply
As a VERY closeted bi, I get where he's coming from. What he just did was awful, not arguing there, but the fear of being outed can drive you crazy. I just feel very bad for Ky, but understand what Drew feels. Coming out to a friend can be great, but when you're in denial of yourself, nothing changes your mind and you end up hurting the ones you love.

Ky looks great though! Hope they don't feel too bad...
Guest 17th May 2019, 4:24 PM edit delete reply
Is Rain religious? I've always wanted to know.
Jessica Bright 17th May 2019, 4:42 PM edit delete reply
ugghhhhhh fuck off drew.

it's really frustrating to see all this work put into a dude and for them to still fuck up.

Taking your comments in mind though, if there is gonna be a turn--well, he's running out of time.
Guest 17th May 2019, 4:46 PM edit delete reply
I hope ha changes...
Guest 17th May 2019, 4:47 PM edit delete reply
lanodan 17th May 2019, 10:23 PM edit delete reply
Quite happy for Ky until … Drew

Seriously, you can care about image and stuff but still be supportive, come on. I wish drew will not screw it up too much and stop at some point, like once high-school is over? (which should be quite soon? IDK when prom is, I think it's in the last month)
Like seriously, by comparison Rain could have been seriously outed with a lot of people in trouble.
DocMesa 18th May 2019, 5:40 AM edit delete reply
And just being a little bit outed is okay in that case? I was under the impression that being outed was a shitty thing to do to someone in all forms, whether it was as being trans or whether it was dating someone genderfluid.
Fox 18th May 2019, 6:05 PM edit delete reply
How is people knowing Ky is genderfluid "outing" Drew. Outsiders will just assume they are a strange "girl", dating genderfluid people doesn't say anything about someone's sexual orientation.
Catlife333 18th May 2019, 11:00 AM edit delete reply
Not cool Drew. Like it or not, you brought Ky. They are entitled, not even just to have fun, but to feel valid in their own skin. Shame on you for being so selfish.
AmbiguousMouse 18th May 2019, 1:04 PM edit delete reply
You know, Drew, there are two kinds of things you could do right now if you can't handle dancing with Ky, and you ought to be doing the other one. The first one is, like, apologizing and going somewhere else to do your thing alone. Obviously this would hurt Ky's feelings, but that version would be okay. Sometimes people just aren't compatible, which Ky already brought up the LAST time you two broke up. So sure, it would've sucked, but you wouldn't be an asshole for it.

Versus now, where you're being an asshole and making everything about you and the dual needs of your social status and your boner. You can't even claim that Ky is potentially outing you, because you still have the option of "don't dance with Ky," as mentioned before. Nobody's gonna make fun of you for coming with someone who does something socially transgressive if you ditch 'em when they do it, you'd pretty much be in the clear. At least as much so as yelling at them for it, which just draws attention.

... In summary, dammit, Drew.
Guest 18th May 2019, 3:18 PM edit delete reply
Welcome to Drew being an asshole #99999
Fox 18th May 2019, 4:50 PM edit delete reply
So, I figured out my basic thoughts.

1. Drew's feelings are valid, but his behavior is crap, especially because he was told this was a possibility.

2.It would have been better if Ky let him know what they were doing, but they also have the right to do it regardless of what Drew thinks, no one gets to tell you who to be.

3. Ky wearing a tux doesn't out Drew as anything, and Ky isn't required to crawl back into the closet for him.

4. Drew needs to majorly redeem himself next week because he's been awful to Ky most of the time they've known him. He's only ever thought of himself and his image and is willing to out them and invalidate them.

5. If Drew is so keen on being in the closet, he never should have dated an out genderfluid person. He treats Ky like something to be ashamed of in public, but wants to get his jollies out of being with them in private and that's just terrible.

6. I really hope someone says something before this gets worse.
Guest 18th May 2019, 4:58 PM edit delete reply
This is basically the correct take imo
Fox 18th May 2019, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
@Guest, thanks.
William 18th May 2019, 5:52 PM edit delete reply
Let's play a bit of devil's advocate (the devil being Drew[1]).

You claim that "he was told this was a possibility".This is not clearly true. The comic that matters is 971. Ky states that it "really kinda up in the air until that night". This is a bit ambiguous if a change during the night is a possibility. In 972 Ky (correctly in my opinion) notes that they and Drew are not compatible and the two break up (or decide not to get together).

Despite this, Ky calls Drew on the day of the prom saying they are wearing a dress to the prom and invites him to accompany them to the prom (comic 1127).

It seems to me quite reasonable for Drew to conclude Ky will be wearing a dress for the entire prom, and that Ky has, at the least, an obligation to give Drew a heads up.

It is debatable if Ky wearing a Tux in any way outs Drew. His friends would certainly tease him about it and given what they know about Drew, Ky should have been in no doubt that Drew would feel he was being outed.

Still Drew is anything but a sympathetic character.

[1] Does he have a part time job?
Fox 18th May 2019, 6:11 PM edit delete reply
@William Ky has explained that they don't control their gender and Drew invited Ky to go in the first place and decided to attend when Ky asked. Also, I already said Ky would have been better off to let Drew know what was going on, but it was also explained to him by the group when he came over, as well as the reason, so he's not being blindsided. Drew making an assumption isn't reasonable given Ky has already said how uncomfortable they were to his face.
Fox 18th May 2019, 6:29 PM edit delete reply
Here's the relevant link to when Ky told Drew it's not a choice
Fox 18th May 2019, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
This shows Drew has been told that Ky can't control what gender they are at any time.
Nyx 20th May 2019, 3:05 AM edit delete reply
There's nothing about this that gives any information as to the frequency Ky's gender can change at. If there's just one thing that Ky knows about Drew, it's that he's dealing with a lot of self-image problems and internalized homophobia. He's grown up in a phenomenally conservative environment, and has been watching Rudy and now Maria get bullied and even expelled (even if only temporarily) as a result of their sexuality.

Ky told Drew that they should go to prom since they were in girlmode, because Ky knew that Drew wasn't yet comfortable being out.

Let's be realistic here. With the propensity for drama at this school, this absolutely will out Drew. People will notice that the tux-wearing Ky is Drew's date from earlier, I mean we're even specifically told that Ky's wearing the same shoes as before.

Is Drew treating everyone in the most mature way possible right now? No. Would anyone here act in the most rational and mature way if in the span of maybe 10 minutes, their expected fun night at prom turned into them being outed to their extremely homophobic community? I very much doubt it.

We need to stop pretending that Drew is being treated with sunshine and roses in this situation. Being supportive of LGBT people isn't some kind of game with trump cards where outing Drew is OK because there's a gender fluid person they could be supporting while being outed.
Fox 20th May 2019, 4:44 AM edit delete reply
And what does being seen with Ky out Drew as exactly? Everyone saw Ky in a dress, Ky still has visible breasts, how does this out Drew as anything?

I never said it covered frequency of Ky's gender changes, only that it covered that they cannot control them and the consequences of trying to go against them.

Besides, if Drew is so insistent on being seen a certain way then he shouldn't have agreed to go to prom with an openly gender fluid person, he doesn't get to have it all his way, where he gets Ky and gets to keep their gender fluidity as some kind of "dirty secret." He has to choose, the closet or being with Ky, neither choice is invalid or wrong, but he has to pick one because he can't have both.
Xiane 20th May 2019, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
Gotta say I love this comic. Jocelyn you've done an amazing job of portraying all these characters and in stirring such emotions in the commenters.

Even myself, I've refrained from posting in various instances because it would detract from just how thought provoking this page has been, rather than argue about who is right, who is wrong and why.. better to sit back and admire just how much life you have put into this situation.

Simply applause. Exceptional.
SirCorgus 25th Sep 2020, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
God damn it Drew
Waffle 28th Sep 2022, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
I thought Drew had figured out that it had little, if anything, to do with him.
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