Comic 1069 - Humble

6th Jun 2018, 10:05 AM in Ch. 35 - Weather the Storm
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Jocelyn 6th Jun 2018, 10:05 AM edit delete
I've had somewhat mixed feelings about including this one. I guess it further establishes where Debbie and Holly stand with Emily after she became "fulltime friends" with the school's resident queer crew, but I don't really feel like any of this is new information. Maybe the refresher is at least welcome, since we haven't focused on this in a while?

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Kyle 6th Jun 2018, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
I'm glad Holly is feeling remorse over Emily, but I still don't trust Debbie.

You know, Jocelyn, I hope you read this, but I do have a serious question for you. I don't get why some of your characters go to a school like St. Hallvard. I mean I get Maria, Rudy, Chanel, and Rain, but Gavin, Ana, Emily, Drew, Holly, Debbie, Devon, Randy, Colette, Aidyn, and Madison I just don't. Are they actually religious, or do they go to this school because their parents force them to? I really feel like this is something someone should ask in the comic, preferably Ky imo. I just don't understand how a bunch of nice, open minded people (excluding Debbie ftm) could survive a place like this. Care to help me?
DocMesa 6th Jun 2018, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
Sometimes have to go to the only school that's available to them, faith not withstanding. It might be the only school their parents can afford, it might be the only one with vacant spaces or they might have had an awful experience at the only other school in the area. =/
Kyle 6th Jun 2018, 11:22 AM edit delete reply
I guess that makes sense for them, but for me it doesn't. Hell, I don't understand how kids in schools like this can stand to were uniforms. If I was forced to go to a school like that, I'd have worn regular clothes no matter what anyone said, and if they egged me on about it, I'd have burned my uniform in front of everyone, not caring about the arson charges, lol.

Anarchy aside, I just don't get how some kids can survive places like St. Hallvard. Every time I see a school that has the word "Catholic" or "St" or "Christian" in the name, I think of the outcasts and the brainwashed drones and feel nothing but pity for them. I feel that whenever I think of Rain and her friends too.
Guest 7th Jun 2018, 3:58 AM edit delete reply
I went to episcopalian school (it is like catholic). I ended out being atheist and pan. The reason I went there is because all of the schools in my town are horrible, and so are the people who go to them. That doesn’t mean that there are horrible people at religious schools (Father Quintin). My fifth grade teacher was horrible and sexist. Me and my friend were the only guys in our class and grade, and she made us do all of the work. She wouldn’t even let the girls help us.
Master Bramble 7th Jun 2018, 4:42 AM edit delete reply
In Ireland all schools have uniforms. Mine is quite comfortable- white shirt, black trousers, purple jumper and blue tie. Everyone wears the same.
There’s also a Catholic school in my town and the main reason people go there is because their parents, grandparents or aunts/uncles went there. The school also thinks they’re better than the rest and that everyone wants to go there (we don’t) and that they have superior facilities (they don’t). It’s the biggest school in my town - twice as big as mine and three times as big as the other school (which is a Gaelscoil so not many people go there). I doubt many people go to the Catholic school because they’re religious.
Jocelyn 6th Jun 2018, 11:21 AM edit delete reply

Not everyone that goes to Catholic school is religious (or even Catholic). Though, some do go for faith-based reasons. I went because my grades were lousy and my parents thought I'd get a superior education there. I didn't, but it wasn't even uncommon as I knew a lot of other kids there for similar reasons. I've known a lot of kids in those kinds of schools for a safer atmosphere and less bullying. Some parents just think if they need to pay for a big tuition, it MUST be better than the public schools. I also knew a lot of kids in my Catholic school who were only there because their parents went there. Family tradition or whatever.

In short, kids can wind up in a school like this for as many reasons as they could for any other school. There doesn't even really need to be a reason.
Kyle 6th Jun 2018, 11:32 AM edit delete reply
@ Jocelyn

Thanks for responding to me. I guess I'm just really puzzled by this because my parents and my grandparents took me and my sister to church a lot when we were kids, and neither of us liked it. All the preaching and lectures made us feel really uncomfortable. Thankfully, as we got older, our parents finally got the message and we stopped going all together. I guess I'm also puzzled because for kids like Rain, Emily, Maria, Rudy, and Ana, they might as well be in the lion's den.
Guest 7th Jun 2018, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
@ Kyle

In addition to the reasons others mentioned, a lot of catholic schools have good athletics programs. Also I knew people who went because that's where all their friends were going so they wanted to go too.
Kyle 8th Jun 2018, 1:24 AM edit delete reply
I get that there are various circumstances in which people willingly or unwillingly go to catholic schools, but I whenever I drive pass one or hear it mentioned, I think to myself if its run by people like Father Quinton, think of the kids like Maria and Rudy who's parents forced them there against their will, who get harassed day in and day out don't receive help from their peers because they're either just as bad, afraid they'll "catch the gay", or get in trouble just for sticking their neck out for them.

There's always someone like that in some school--public or private--somewhere who can't run for help who doesn't have a shoulder to cry on, someone to fight for them like Maria with all her friends. I'm genuinely disappointed this hasn't been brought up yet.
bgb16999 6th Jun 2018, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
For Emily, I imagine that her mother just said "what's the most expensive private school in the area? I'm sending you there!" Without bothering to look in to whether it was actually a good school, or take Emily's opinion into account. Her mom probably isn't a fundamentalist Catholic, since when Emily said she was pregnant her mom's first reaction was to tell Emily to have an abortion. But I can see her thinking just enough about Emily's education to want Emily to go to the most expensive school.

For Colette, his parents are wildly transphobic, so it is possible they are also religious and are sending him there just like Rudy's parents.
Kyle 6th Jun 2018, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
I agree with you about Emily's mother, and I'm glad Colette is waiting until he graduates and moves out before starting transition. He'll have the independence he needs.
RubyRuthNeal 6th Jun 2018, 2:02 PM edit delete reply
Here in my small city in north Texas, the population is overwhelmingly southern Baptist, yet there's a Catholic school system here (elementary, jr high and high school) called Notre Dame Catholic School, that's always filled to max capacity with only a very small minority ofnthe students actually Catholic. Most of the students are from wealthy families who want to avoid the gang problems in the public achools. A large percentage of the students are Mormons. I think every Mormon family in this town sends their kids to Notre Dame because they're all fairly wealthy and can afford it and from their perspective they've got two bad problems they want their kids to avoid in the public schools, the drug gangs and the Baptists.

As to the school uniforms thing, Notre Dame of course has a dress code involving school uniforms, but has a variety of different uniform styles and options available to the students on most days, and even jeans days where the students are allowed to wear one of the official school t-shirts and their choice of blue denim jeans as long as the jeans are modest in design and not faded or have any holes or fraying. There is no color-coded garments for different classes/years. All students from 6th thru 12th grsde have the same pool of uniform options except high school juniors and seniors have an additional option of a navy blue school blazer to distinguish themselves as upperclassmen.

Interestingly enough, several of our local public schools have school uniform requirements that are even more rigid than the Catholic school's..... this is to prevent any students from wearing "gang colors" to school.
Kyle 6th Jun 2018, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
Just because someone wears a nice school uniform doesn't mean their a good person at heart. Take Todd for example. At first glance you'd probably look at him and think he's a nice, straight A student at a prestigious school only to later find out he's a bully that's gotten away with it because an even bigger bully turned a blind eye toward his actions. How would you feel then? I'm generalizing anyone, I promise, but it's the person that matters, not what they're wearing.
Danigami 6th Jun 2018, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
Kyle 8th Jun 2018, 1:30 AM edit delete reply
Thank you for seeing my point XD
Anna 6th Jun 2018, 1:53 PM edit delete reply
Don't apologise for the 'dud'. It may seem like that when posted on its own days apart from others, but when reading through the archives later it's pages like this that add a little bit extra to the story and you do need them occasionally.
Samantha Jane 6th Jun 2018, 4:33 PM edit delete reply
So I came out to my Christian parents today.
They took it pretty well, they have issues relating to theology and faith. My father said he’d be “gutted” if I transitioned (a Scottish colloquialism for disappointed or sad) but in the end he’d support me because we’re a family. It’ll take time but I think things will get better. Mum broke down when she realised how much pain I’d been internalising for the past decade. Dad cried too. That was heartbreaking, you never see your father cry.
The problem is they were just nominate to be Elders at the church and will now probably have to recuse themselves. I feel bad about that too. I’m feeling very emotionally drained and fragile right now, hopefully things will clear up in time.
Supportive Anon 6th Jun 2018, 4:55 PM edit delete reply
*gently wraps you in rainbow bubble wrap*

Shamantha Jane 7th Jun 2018, 5:51 PM edit delete reply
Thanks, dears ❤️
It’s going to take some coaxing and gentle persuasion to work them up to the idea of me fully transitioning but we’ll get there (I hope).
Telling my brother today was easy. He just shrugged in that “whatever” way and that was it. No questions, no judgement, nothing.

My mom has been sending me articles and research by Christian pastors and doctors and amazingly they’re pretty balanced, not your usual right-wing straw men. She wanted my opinion on them and I think they’re pretty fair. They say from a Christian perspective while full transition isn’t recommended it has to be understood as sometimes the only solution and that Christians should continue to support and love those transitioning. I hope my mom takes that on board and passes it on as it’ll make things way easier.

Anyway, my wee rant out of the way xD I’ll probably comment more in the future too so don’t be surprised to find some updates. Love all you wonderful Rain Beaus, keep being amazing people xxx
Gigglebox 6th Jun 2018, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
Give your parents a hug for me, Samantha. You have some good ones.
Fox 6th Jun 2018, 9:55 PM edit delete reply
Good vibes to your whole family.
Queen Wolfen 7th Jun 2018, 11:19 AM edit delete reply
Queen Wolfen

Emily 7th Jun 2018, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
Sadly, distance exists, but if you were here I'd give you all the hugs.

I have my issues with the phrase "thoughts and prayers," but . . . here, have some of each, and I REALLY hope things get a little brighter for you and your family soon.
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