Comic 963 - Perspective

23rd Jun 2017, 1:34 PM in Ch. 33 - The Calm
Perspective
Average Rating: 5 (6 votes)
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Jocelyn 23rd Jun 2017, 1:34 PM edit delete
Jocelyn
I can't vouch for other people's experiences, but when I started presenting female full-time, strangers started being nicer to me. I don't if that has anything to do with attitudes towards women versus towards men. Or if it was just that I gave off a more positive vibe that people found more approachable because I was happy for once. Or both, I guess. Whatever the reason, it led to a lot more friendly tones and small talk (particularly from clerks).

I was actually somewhat taken aback by this newfound friendliness myself (I also have a lot of social anxiety), but Ruby seems to LOVE it. And interacting with all these strangers who respond very positively towards Ruby is very exciting.

But then we see other students from St. Hallvard (because what else is there for teens to do in this town besides go to the mall, apparently). We have Ana, Madison, Colette, and Aidyn. And among them, everyone but Colette knows who Rudy is and would probably recognize him right away. Would that be an issue though? It's clear Ruby is not excited to see them right now... but why? Is there any danger with this particular group of people? Or does Ruby just want that alone time right now?


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mecaterpillar 23rd Jun 2017, 2:13 PM edit delete reply
Heh. I knew the mall would result in running into someone he knew. It's just what happens at the mall. I figure by now Ana knows Rudy well enough to recognize him from a distance even while he's wearing this. The other students, I'm not so sure about. As such I figure he'd be most wary of Ana. Though my guess is if she did notice him, she would try to speak to him in secret like she did with Rain. So she might not be the one to really worry about.
Jessica Bright 23rd Jun 2017, 2:45 PM edit delete reply
Cue Todd asking Ruby out in 5 4 3 2
Riley_05 24th Jun 2017, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
I really wanna see this happen
Neelix 23rd Jun 2017, 2:59 PM edit delete reply
Perhaps I'm wrong but i can't help thinking, that there's not really any danger from these particular four students... Though it occurs to me that Ana might be a bit cold if she somehow perceives Ruby to be a threat to her own stealth.

Were Madison and Aidyn at Emily's Halloween party? If so, they may have met Ruby before...

It's probably a bad idea but part of me can't help thinking Ruby should introduce herself and join them.

-Neelix
Samantha 23rd Jun 2017, 3:28 PM edit delete reply
Even if they have met Ruby before, people don't always do things for the right reason. I imagine an evil grin on their faces when they think of getting back at Todd.

Not that Ruby would necessarily mind, so long as Todd doesn't turn out to be superhomophobic and violent.
Neelix 23rd Jun 2017, 7:49 PM edit delete reply
@Samantha

Considering Todd used to beat up Rudy until Maria confronted him at the Halloween party, I think it's safe to say that Todd is certainly violent and very likely homophobic.

Methinks that deliberately setting up any interaction between Rudy and Todd would be asking for trouble.

-Neelix
mecaterpillar 23rd Jun 2017, 3:28 PM edit delete reply
I had forgotten about the Halloween party. On the one hand, that means they're more likely to put two and two together. On the other hand, that's what's most likely to pop into their mind then. Which might just make them joke around that it's not Halloween. Rather than having any other thoughts as a result.
Jocelyn 23rd Jun 2017, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
Jocelyn
@Neelix

To clarify, yes, Aidyn and Madison do know Rudy, and have technically even seen Ruby before at the Halloween party.
http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/151/

Very forgotten fact: Rudy's been shown talking to Madison even before that though too. So yeah, they each other. ^_^
http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/40/
Neelix 23rd Jun 2017, 7:38 PM edit delete reply
@Jocelyn

Ooh thanks for the links. I had in fact forgotten about that early conversation between Rudy and Madison. That said I did figure they would know Rudy on sight regardless, I was more interested in if they had specifically encountered *Ruby* before. Which they sort of did, except that Rudy wasn't actually trying to pass at the time...

Dammit, now I want to see them interact, just to see what happens. *wry smile*

-Neelix
Ruth 24th Jun 2017, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
Yes, they have met Ruby before. As Jocelyn pointed out in http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/151/ and also take a look back at their reaction in http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/152

Once glance and they'll instantly recognize....
Samantha 23rd Jun 2017, 3:15 PM edit delete reply
Jocelyn, from my experience, even though I'm neither muscular nor chiseled chin nor particularly overweight, I've discovered I don't pass 100% (more like 75%). I've discovered people still treat me nicer, so while it has some to do with how women are treated softer than men, feeling right in your own skin is a big contributing factor.

Generally, if you as a transgender person antagonize people setting yourself up as "everyone's gonna hate me" they generally detect your discomfort and the surly attitude that goes with it (if I'm not happy, I tend to be shy, which gets mistaken for gruffness).
bgb16999 23rd Jun 2017, 5:12 PM edit delete reply
bgb16999
Looks like Ruth called it:)
Ruth 23rd Jun 2017, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
Ana hasn't noticed Ruby yet.....
TheGoatGoddess 23rd Jun 2017, 6:54 PM edit delete reply
I just your entire comic over the course of two days and i just want you to know its really helped me.
TheGoatGoddess 23rd Jun 2017, 6:55 PM edit delete reply
Read*
AceStudios 23rd Jun 2017, 7:30 PM edit delete reply
This only reinforces the "Ruby is an Egg" theory
Fox 23rd Jun 2017, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
Or Ruby is just Rudy's cross dressing persona? Let's not ascribe a gender to someone just because their gender expression is feminine some of the time. Gender expression doesn't always equal gender identity.
Ruth 23rd Jun 2017, 10:58 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
It kinda does.
Guest 24th Jun 2017, 12:36 AM edit delete reply
It really doesn't, and suggesting that Gender Expression = Gender Identity means misgendering and erasing a lot of people.

Femme-Presenting people I know include not only women (both cis & Trans), but also people who are Agender, transmen, GenderQueer, & cismen who would love to be able to wear skirts more often without having to be worried about social stigma. Masculine-Presenting people I know include not only men (both cis and Trans), but also lots of ciswomen (not only Queer ones, but straight ones as well), GenderQueer people, GenderFluid people (not everybody chooses to change their presentation depending on their gender that day like Ky(lie) does— even if they can, which in the professional world, many can't).

Clothing is not gendered in and of itself. High heels were men's clothing for most of their existence, but became popular among women flappers who were going for an "androgynous" look, so much so that eventually they became regarded as women's shoes. In plenty of societies throughout history, wearing pants was seen as effeminate; in plenty of societies (even today) skirts of a variety of types are accepted wear for everybody (or sometimes, specifically masculine!). Wearing make up has often historically been a "everybody wears it/nobody wears it" thing. There's no real rule over how a society will consider clothing in terms of gender presentation, and plenty of chance that it will change.

Trying to say that presentation = gender ignores the reality that a) not everybody can safely present how they might want to, & b) that people can pick the clothes they feel most comfortable in. It's very harmful to suggest it.
Guest 24th Jun 2017, 12:44 AM edit delete reply
@Guest I 100% agree with you on all counts. I said much the same thing above and on the last page, I'm glad I'm not the only one uncomfortable with the "egg" theory.
Fox 24th Jun 2017, 12:45 AM edit delete reply
^from me, forgot to type in my name.
Samantha 24th Jun 2017, 2:33 AM edit delete reply
Ruth, alot of ppl would disagree.

There are drag queens.

There are crossdressers who are straight, gay, bi, and some of them are happily married. Others are living in stealth.

There are not only lesbian and bi butch girls, but also straight butch women.

Where am I going with this? The nonstandard "lesbian-looking" girl, a drag queen (it's a job, not their gender identity), and a crossdresser (they typically identify as male) are all examples of people whose gender expression does not match their gender identity.

To say nothing of genderfluid people who do not have fixed gender, and transgender people who do not have a desire for surgery.

https://shadowproof.com/2011/05/07/gender-expression-and-gender-identity-are-two-separate-concepts/
Guest 25th Jun 2017, 5:46 PM edit delete reply
I cosplay. Not always at conventions. Sometimes just for escapism or curiosity. It always makes me really happy when I am gendered as the character I am playing and treated accordingly or when people around me can't recognize me. This is not because I want to be the person I am portraying. It makes me happy because it is a compliment to my skill and because anonymity is soothing.
Riley_05 24th Jun 2017, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
As a male who enjoys dressing femininely and equally enjoys being treated as and randomly thought to be female in public I disagree with the 'egg' theory
Reimi 23rd Jun 2017, 9:01 PM edit delete reply
Reimi
I still remember how I felt the first time I was 100% gendered correctly, no doubt or politeness factored in, I passed. One of the happiest moments of my life.
Guest 23rd Jun 2017, 10:28 PM edit delete reply
I kind of want to believe that he is cis. I mean, he likes being treated like a girl and wearing girls clothing, but, both of those things are purely social, and aren't really inherently something that always exists.
Samantha 24th Jun 2017, 2:38 AM edit delete reply
Guest, Ruby is not transgender but is gay, although probably on the genderfluid spectrum. Or waking up the reality of being transfeminine (not transfemale, mind you, Ruby enjoys the guy parts too much).
Guest 23rd Jun 2017, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
i really like the outfit Ruby is in
Guest 24th Jun 2017, 12:28 AM edit delete reply
I really dont want to be mean, but i find it offensive when, lets say a boy dresses and "trick" people into thinking there a girl when they them slfes dont need to. i hope that makes secnce. but if there a reson for someone to cross dress, like dressing that way makes them more comfrtible thats fine, but why lie and shy youer a differance preson? Rudy told Rain hes just a guy? why dose he feel the need to have Ruby? im sorry if i offened anyone but im just saying my view.
Fox 24th Jun 2017, 12:56 AM edit delete reply
Many drag queens for instance have a female persona that they inhabit, so it's not really that odd. No one is being "tricked", they are making an assumption based on gender expression, which isn't being corrected, likely because of the danger in doing so. Everyone should be free to be themselves and no way of being is wrong. Perhaps give things more time to be explained before passing judgment?
Guest 27th Jun 2017, 8:29 AM edit delete reply
i think my meaning was lost in translations. its because i know people who dress like a girl for "fun" while i war dresses and skirts to help deal with disforiea
Fox 27th Jun 2017, 6:37 PM edit delete reply
Even in that case though,them dressing as a girl for fun doesn't invalidate your gender. It doesn't hurt anyone for them to do that, people should be free to dress however they please as long as it's appropriate for the situation. Many people who Id as guys just enjoy wearing dresses. You're feelings are valid. Try to remember that how they dress doesn't reflect on you and unless expressly stated, isn't about you either.
Guest 27th Jun 2017, 9:03 PM edit delete reply
Okay. I guess I'm like Rain when Rudy dressed as a school girl at Halloween.
Fox 27th Jun 2017, 9:27 PM edit delete reply
You'll notice that Rain moved past that though, I hope you can too, it'll probably make you a lot happier.
Guest 27th Jun 2017, 9:39 PM edit delete reply
ill try, thank you for explaining and being civil.
Fox 28th Jun 2017, 8:37 PM edit delete reply
Good luck. You're welcome.
DramaDork 24th Jun 2017, 2:52 AM edit delete reply
"I wish I could get this kind of treatment without having to dress like this though." I think Rudy goes out dressed as Ruby because he wants to be treated better. He already gets shit for being gay, likely based on how effeminate he appears (although it's hard to tell in comic format), so any escape for that would be welcome. I can't say I blame him. Gender roles are a bitch. Nonconformity to gender roles (which does not inherently make a person trans) tends to result in harassment regardless of whether it's a boy acting feminine or a girl acting masculine. Especially since male gender roles are so much stricter than female gender roles in the U.S., I can't lie and say I haven't been tempted to detransition. And why shouldn't I? Dressing "like a girl" seems to result in everyone calling me one, even (read: especially) other trans people. If everyone is so insistent that wearing dresses makes you a girl, then what's the point? I'm never going to be happy and to live how I want. I need to be male. I want to wear "women's" clothes and be feminine. And I hate that I have to choose.
Quin 24th Jun 2017, 10:08 AM edit delete reply
Speaking as someone coercively assigned female at birth due to massive birth defects (and surgically assigned much later), do not let the pressure "to conform; or whatever" change what you desire.

Before I was told that I am genetically XY, I thought I may be a trans man. I never even thought about any surgery, I have had too many already. I didn't want to take T; needles scare me. But I pushed ahead because being female didn't feel right. Not because I thought I was male; only that I knew for certain that I was not female. No one mentioned ths option of being agender or fluid, I only had late 80 - early 90 genderf*ck so I went that route because it was "something that already exists". A decade of soul-searching and better resources on the internet have shown me that there was a better option: for me that is agender.

Do I still dress feminine occasionally? Yup; no dresses but I won't turn down a bdsm-style goth "girly" outfit. If people clock me as female, or as a guy doing drag, I no longer care. Inside, I have found what I want to be.

That is what I wish for you. And everyone else. Being self-conscious is hard to overcome, I do understand. But what I have learned to ask is not "why can't I make other people see me as me" not "would it be easier if . . .". Ask, instead, "if fear/anxiety were not here, if other people just agreed with how I aim to present, what would I want?" And then be the best version of that that you can be.
Guest 24th Jun 2017, 2:23 PM edit delete reply
The real question here is what Ruby is gonna with those clothes once she gets home
HinataTlaltelpa 24th Jun 2017, 7:02 PM edit delete reply
HinataTlaltelpa
Rudy might be trans
Riley_05 24th Jun 2017, 8:19 PM edit delete reply
Since the 'is Ruby trans' question seems to be our main discussion; I believe the answer is no. This is mainly because of meta knowledge in that Jocelyn has done a lot to try to create a very gender and sexually diverse cast, and making Ruby trans would a) take away our only gay male, and b) take away the opportunity to have a character who is comfortable in their gender but crossdresses
Kommentator 24th Jun 2017, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
Todd is gay. Thinking it since the beginnin, calling it now.
Samantha 24th Jun 2017, 11:40 PM edit delete reply
Calling Todd being mostly straight but also a "chaser." Worst part is, he's probably in denial about it. Already asked Rain and Ana.
Fox 25th Jun 2017, 1:38 AM edit delete reply
He also asked every other girl he could find including Collette and he doesn't know about Rain's trans status or Ana's intersex/trans status so I highly doubt he's a "chaser". He seems to just be up to no good.
Honey Wheeler 25th Jun 2017, 3:33 AM edit delete reply
Okay, so I discovered conversion therapy and I have decided never to come out to my parents till they can't do anything about it anyways. Holy Crap! How the frick does a person electrocute the "Gay" out of you? In other news, I came out to my one friend at a field trip. She also came out to me. We spent the rest of the afternoon talking about being bisexual. I might have the slightest bit of a crush now.
Quin 25th Jun 2017, 4:05 AM edit delete reply
I am so sorry that you feel your parents aren't accepting enough to tell. Keeping you safe should be their biggest concern, but I also know people who were beaten and kicked out for coming out.

Be safe. Talk to the friend you trust and see if they know other people you can trust; you need people on your side. If there is a local support group, try to sneak in. If not, find one online; reddit has lots of QUILTBAG boards and links to forums.

Lastly, trust in yourself.
Guest 25th Jun 2017, 11:55 AM edit delete reply
@Honey Wheeler

The way they might shock the homosexuality out of a person is by the extent to which it is administered. They can perform the procedure to severity as to perform ECT personality annihilation. It is murder but the body and brain remain alive, barring complications. A new personality forms but there is no guarantee the person will be hetero. Albeit, odds are favorable.

For a short time these practices fell into some disfavor. But it's frequency has increased. In some cases, e.g., bipolar disorder, it can be very helpful. But its use should be guarded against haphazard practice, not be used for control or punishment and should never be used at the level of personality annihilation. But it is also being used coercively and where benefit is dubious. And even at less than annihilation levels there are reports of memory loss and personality erosion.

Face it, we live in a police state. Each day we lose more of our freedoms as well as government offices, corporations and institutions infringing into our lives. Recently a big blow was HR 2646. Tell your congressman you want it repealed and to guard against more of such abuse of power.
Guest 25th Jun 2017, 12:18 PM edit delete reply
Also, there is a much safer treatment of electromagnetic inducement with fewer deleterious effects and no convulsions : TMS.
Lord Pug 27th Jun 2017, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
I really hope Rudy doesn't turn out to be Transgender. In this comic all the guys are side characters, villains, or Rudy who may or may not be a Trans* girl.
bgb16999 1st Aug 2017, 2:22 AM edit delete reply
bgb16999
Well, Gavin is a guy who isn't a villain, a side character, or Rudy.
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