Comic 844 - Easily Avoided

10th Jun 2016, 3:20 AM in Ch. 29: Transitions
Easily Avoided
Average Rating: 5 (6 votes)
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Jocelyn 10th Jun 2016, 3:20 AM edit delete
Jocelyn
You probably could've guessed, but this scene isn't over. Maria and Emily will be continuing this little chat next time.

But in the meantime, let's consider what's being said here. Both girls say kind of a lot here, but what's actually going on? What is Maria trying to achieve? What did inspire Emily's change of heart? What aren't they saying to each other? It's the last page before the weekend, but there's plenty to think about.


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Jocelyn 13th Jun 2016, 2:30 AM edit delete
Jocelyn
I deleted some rude comments a bit earlier. I don't want to screen posts again, because I feel like that dissuades posts and communication from people who mean well. So, do me a favor, and if you're going to argue with other members, please take it someplace else. I'm just beyond not interested in putting up with people fighting today. Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Sarah 10th Jun 2016, 3:29 AM edit delete reply
I'm thinking about the motives for keeping the baby Emily's already mentioned and feeling worried. I love her as a character, and while a lot of her choices seem healthy, I don't want her steering down a hard path if she doesn't have to. I'd like to see her really talk this out with Maria.
Zach 10th Jun 2016, 7:59 AM edit delete reply
Just finished reading all of the comic. I really love it! I'm planning on buying the books soon as I get some spending money but for now I just wanted to comment and say how much I enjoyed reading this.
Samantha 10th Jun 2016, 12:19 PM edit delete reply
Why is abortion the only option in fiction? Doesn't anyone ever consider adoption? You have a baby, you don't have the resources, you give it to someone who can give it a good home.
Emily shouldn't be keeping the baby if she's at the point where she can' care for it (i.e. she can't pay bills or get educated). But the baby is an innocent victim in this, and someone should care for it. The only way she can help that baby is with her friends' help or giving it to adoption.
I just don't like the abortion/raising the child false dichotomy. Those really aren't the only options.
Donut Studios 10th Jun 2016, 12:26 PM edit delete reply
From what I can see here, that's not really the problem. The problem is that she's pregnant in the first place. It's a highly religious school, so if found out, she could be expelled and/or ridiculed.
Jocelyn 10th Jun 2016, 1:17 PM edit delete reply
Jocelyn
@Samantha

No one ever said those were the only options. Just because she hasn't brought up the topic of adoption, doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist.

She merely said that she considered abortion in the beginning. As Donut Studios said, the issue here is that she's pregnant at all. Adoption is certainly a valid option if one feels unable to care for the baby after it's born, but it doesn't do anything about the nine months of carrying it before then (which is the phase she's in now and currently has to worry about). Whatever comes from her revealing her pregnancy to the school isn't going to change based on whether or not she chooses to personally raise the child. That's why no one's talking about adoption right now.
Samantha 10th Jun 2016, 6:50 PM edit delete reply
I guess I get miffed at the whole deal where fiction brings these two as the ONLY options. There's adoption either to the state, or possibly willing it to a godparent to raise (I guess that's legal?), and possibly even letting a surrogate carry it (the money issue leaves this out).
And yes, there is the whole issue about hiding it NOW, so yeah it's valid points. It just irks me how most fiction I've read doesn't even tap into the "later" aspects.
Samantha 10th Jun 2016, 7:02 PM edit delete reply
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion

It's common enough that it's a trope.

Also, it irks me that any school can dare call itself religious and try to expel students for pregnancy (in many cases the result of rape rather than outdated notions of harlotry).
drs 10th Jun 2016, 7:22 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, I view abortion as exceptional in fiction, not normal.
Mikasi 11th Jun 2016, 4:00 AM edit delete reply
See, I'm of the opinion that I don't know how CPS/Adoption Services is in the World of Rain, because to be honest? Unless they set up an adoption right now and Emily got along a lot with the family doing the adoption, the kid would end up in a very, very, VERY broken system.

That's right, I'd say abortion is a better option then having the kid languish in a system that is over worked, understaffed, and frankly doesn't care in most cases. That's not to say there AREN'T case workers that work their rear ends off, and they deserve more credit then they get, but they ARE in the minority these days, or at least it seems it.
PCBenjima 13th Jun 2016, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
Welcome to the wonderful world of religious fanaticism, where it doesn't matter about reality. All that matters is everyone adhere to what the people in charge say, because they're the ones who speak for the imaginary friend in the sky.
Silanael 12th Jun 2016, 8:27 PM edit delete reply
You are correct that it isn't the only option, but it's the most reasonable one.

There are billions of humans in the world already, and plenty of children waiting in the orphanages for those willing to raise them, so why create more?

The baby isn't a victim until it's a fully operational human being. It didn't even exist at all a while ago, so why should it now?
RNLMC 8th Sep 2016, 10:42 PM edit delete reply
I just have to say, even as someone who works for the Dutch marine corps and has to kill bad guys, saying an aborted fetus is not a victim is cold as ice. I mean, I've worked with guys who don't think twice about pulling the trigger to shoot someone, but even they see a fetus as alive and precious.
j-eagle12212012 10th Jun 2016, 2:15 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
I find Maria's concern for Emilys future to be an indication that Maria still has an emotional attachment to Emily. They may have had a rough breakup and been distant to each other but now that they are talking again it seems Maria still cares about Emily... hmmm
Should be interesting if this conversation brings up the past
Torne 10th Jun 2016, 8:46 PM edit delete reply
If you can stop loving someone then you never truly loved them to begin with.
Sarah 11th Jun 2016, 4:39 AM edit delete reply
I'm not sure that's always true. I'm not sure you can will yourself to stop loving someone, but feelings change and evolve. Love can change from platonic to romantic (or the inverse) or wane altogether, especially if there's broken trust involved.
That being said, Maria's said before that she has a problem getting over people, and I personally think she still has a thing for Emily. But she's got a great relationship with Chanel, and I doubt she'd ever throw that away. Not to mention Emily and Rain's new relationship, though that's still under wraps.
Sarah 11th Jun 2016, 4:40 AM edit delete reply
Were this an episode of Glee, I'd expect to see Maria overwhelmed by her feelings and attempting to kiss Emily, but I really hope Jocelyn doesn't go that route.
armandoB 11th Jun 2016, 3:54 PM edit delete reply
armandoB
the right thing is always the hardest thing
SethTheHobbit 11th Jun 2016, 5:48 PM edit delete reply
I've been reading my way through all the pages of Rain and I have to say that it's amazing! I can't believe that I managed to read hundreds of pages of this in a few days either. Rain is the first comic that I've actually read (well except for Mandy annuals) - I'm more of a book person to be honest - and I'm in love. As I was reading old posts, I'm wondering when you're posting new pages?
Now for all the things I've been waiting to say:

Part of me is glad that Rudy/Ruby seems to be happy as a guy but that other part of me is hoping for another non binary character, being non binary myself. Someone suggested called Rudy/Ruby "Ru" to refer to him and I love the idea.

I'm also really glad that there's asexual and pansexual characters because I love when things I sort of am get representation.

Pixie Chanel is the cutest.

I still ship Heather and Jessica, although I would like Jessica and Aiken to make up and become friends again. Also, I called Heather being intersex.

My first thought about Ana was bottom surgery, which depending on how old she is and their financial situation, could be possible. I'm also sort of hoping that Ana and Rain find out about each other - bump into each other at an appointment maybe?


In summary, Jocelyn you're writing an amazing story so keep at it!
Zii 12th Jun 2016, 2:26 AM edit delete reply
There's a Discord server up for fans of the webcomic to chat, just so you know!

https://discord.gg/013LUMhDDsL7LWaiN
SayaHeart 12th Jun 2016, 4:11 PM edit delete reply
SayaHeart
Looks like topwebcomics updated their website, so now the vote for Rain link just takes you to the homepage. easy enough to search for, but this should be the vote for rain link now http://topwebcomics.com/vote/13839
Sarah 12th Jun 2016, 5:55 PM edit delete reply
And Rain is around 205 right now, which should be page 3.
Kamikaze Jim 12th Jun 2016, 10:29 PM edit delete reply
I have a question, is anyone in the main group actually religious?
I mean it's fine if you aren't, but as Christian myself, I'm kinda interested in knowing if anyone in the group is.
Samantha 13th Jun 2016, 1:33 AM edit delete reply
I am a centrist (more conservative than most here though, by far) Christian genderfluid transfemale. And yes, I know some people think that's paradoxical.

I don't mess around with most of those people. They tent to be too political and rub me the wrong way with their secular (lack of) morality.
Pip 13th Jun 2016, 11:36 PM edit delete reply
I respect your views and faith, but please don't refer to secular people/atheists as having a lack of morality. Apart from being plain wrong, it's rather offensive. Our sense of morality is just not rooted in a belief like yours is, but it is no less profound or acute.

If that is not what you meant, forgive me for misunderstanding what you said :)
Artorigus 13th Jun 2016, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
I don't think it's ever been called into too much focus whether any individual character was explicitly religious, or believed in God without practicing a specific faith, or was just outright atheist. My memory could be faulty on this, but I think the only part of their religious affiliation that was made canon was that none of them are anywhere near as absurdly fundamentalist as the Strongwell parents or the school staff; for example, none of the characters in the main group ever struggle with their orientation for religious reasons, instead having those struggles with *other* people's fundamentalism (i.e. Maria originally hoped to "cure her own gay" but mostly to fit her parents' definition of normal, not because she felt spiritually wrong for being gay).

So I guess, none of them are hardcore Catholics, but they may or may not be religious to a less extreme degree, and I don't necessarily think making it more explicit would've been good for the story.
HinataTlaltelpa 1st Jul 2016, 2:23 AM edit delete reply
HinataTlaltelpa
Of coarse she should keep her baby
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