Comic 832 - Rudy & Ruby

12th May 2016, 10:47 PM in Ch. 29: Transitions
Rudy & Ruby
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Jocelyn 12th May 2016, 10:47 PM edit delete
Jocelyn
So, what do you think Rudy's story is? Closeted/questioning trans/genderqueer? Crossdressing? Just goofing off? Something else?

And is he just dodging the questions, or does he really not know?


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Dandelions42 12th May 2016, 11:35 PM edit delete reply
Hmm. . . . My first instinct is to take Rudy at face value, as a person who identifies as a guy and just really likes crossdressing. Maybe he is genderqueer, or someone else in his position would consider themselves genderqueer, but if he's happy considering himself a guy, I don't see a reason to challenge him. That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is really confused and conflicted about enjoying himself as Ruby, and he could probably benefit from talking about this with someone. Could he talk with Ky without accidentally saying something that leads to Ky injuring him? :P
Artemis-Orion 13th May 2016, 12:58 AM edit delete reply
Artemis-Orion
I mean, he reminds me of me when I was first exploring my gender identity. But back then if you called me a girl I was liable to punch you. >.> (I was not the most secure of people)

So, I'm not about to challenge Rudy on his gender identity, that's just rude. But I can't say he doesn't feel very familiar. xD
DocMesa 15th May 2016, 12:02 PM edit delete reply
Completely unrelated but I like your hat.
Artemis-Orion 15th May 2016, 6:00 PM edit delete reply
Artemis-Orion
Why thank you. I'm very fond of it myself. ^.^
the61scissors 13th May 2016, 12:59 AM edit delete reply
The way that Rudy turns away from Rain when he insists that he likes being a guy at the very least suggests to me that he's troubled by not understanding the why of things. Personally, while I think it's most likely that Rudy will be something other than trans, I would like him to be trans so that we an have a character who hasn't already gone through the self-discovery process.

On a totally unrelated topic, and this might not even be the right place for it, what's the news on Magical?
Kat 13th May 2016, 1:27 AM edit delete reply
I've been wondering that, too.
kyuubi no kitsune-hime 13th May 2016, 2:03 AM edit delete reply
Well cis drag queen makes a lot of sense for Rudy because of his flamboyant and energetic style. Also having a femme persona is something drag queens do. A bit stereotypical if you ask me though... Although all the drag queens I know are walking stereotypes. XD Me being a trans girly girl though, I'm even worse because I dress lolita style so often...

Other wise gender non-conforming might be applicable too.
j-eagle12212012 13th May 2016, 2:09 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
If Rudy doesn't know than putting a label on him seems unfair. At this point Rudy/Ruby is just Rudy/Ruby if that makes sense
the61scissors 13th May 2016, 2:45 AM edit delete reply
How about Ru?
sometimesxdresser 13th May 2016, 5:52 AM edit delete reply
This side of Rudy is very relatable, for me especially. I'm neither gay nor trans but have frequently been drawn to crossdressing, almost as if there is a side to me I like to bring out and explore every now and then. It isn't a huge part of me but I have always felt it was important. I might have only dressed a few days a year when I was younger ( I hardly ever do anymore ) but each time always felt significant. I'm a guy, I like being a guy, and if I had a magic button that could make me a girl I would opt out, but I do feel taht I have a femine side to me and have always enjoyed exploring this. It is a type of gender identity that is often talked about or discussed less frequently so I like this side of Rudy/Ruby.
EpicSD 13th May 2016, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
EpicSD
I think he's a CD and isn't quite sure yet so hes keeping it to himself, or perhaps he dose know but he's not saying anything so he wont get bullied for being a CD as well as gay.
EclipseStar 13th May 2016, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
I'm guessing, closeted/unsure transgirl, after all a lot of us start out by coming out as a gay guy, I'd definitely could see that happening
Akane 20th Jul 2016, 1:51 AM edit delete reply
Just like I did. And I quite much feel like Rudy is hiding something that even he might not be aware of just yet.
Chandler the Potato King 13th May 2016, 2:44 PM edit delete reply
I think Rudy/Ruby just likes cross dressing. That or he could be gender queer and just now realizing it.
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On a completely unrelated note Rudy/Ruby looks sooo cute on this page >.< blushing is adorable
EpicSD 13th May 2016, 2:49 PM edit delete reply
EpicSD
Maybe he's a trap, think back to the Halloween party he got a kick out of tricking Dure.
Chase 13th May 2016, 8:27 PM edit delete reply
That word is generally a slur and only used in an extremely transphobic context as you have used it here, FYI. I'm a little disappointed to have seen it on this site at all. Not cool.

I will explain:

The narrative that a trans-person or a crossdresser can be a "trap" lends to the narrative, currently under heavy debate, that trans people are some how scary and "out to get" or "trap" straight people into being intimate with them for... some reason which the people using that narrative are generally unable to define. It is the reasoning behind the "Trans Panic" defense, by which people are literally trying to make it essentially legal to murder trans people. It is very directly the reason for the current complete mess in NC.

I am sure your intentions were not to slur, but you did. Please do take care in the future.
BetweenARock 14th May 2016, 3:10 PM edit delete reply
While I would agree that the term "trap" shouldn't really be used in terms of trans people, I have personally known several crossdressers that enjoy being called a trap. As a trans woman, I really don't see the term "trap" as a slur towards trans people. Maybe it's because I actually know people who embrace the term. The first time Rudy went out as Ruby, everyone knew it was him, so it wasn't like he was trying to go stealth as a cross dresser or anything. The second time at the mall is a little more iffy, but I really don't think he thought that time through at all and really just wanted to use the opportunity to screw with Gavin because he knows Gavin has a weird sort of attraction to that. I honestly don't think Rudy would object being called a trap unless it was used to threaten his life, and I really don't see him getting into a situation like that.

Just my two cents. I just really don't believe in policing what people say without a reasonable cause. I've seen people be silenced for really ridiculous and miniscule "offenses" that could have instead be used as a way to educate instead of reprimanding.
Chase 14th May 2016, 8:39 PM edit delete reply
There are plenty of trans people who like being called that other T-started word that some people use to describe trans people as well too. That doesn't actually make it okay to use for anybody but the person making the decision using that word to self-describe. The word is, outside of personal use, -universally- used to denigrate and harm trans people.
Chase 14th May 2016, 8:40 PM edit delete reply
That is, within this context, of course.
Guest 15th May 2016, 2:54 AM edit delete reply
It would be like using the term dyke or queer without that being how the person describes themselves. Those terms can still be highly derogatory.
BetweenARock 15th May 2016, 12:46 PM edit delete reply
Any word can be highly derogatory in certain contexts. I've seen completely harmless words be used to denigrate and abuse people. I just don't believe in making blanket statements that claim that a word is offensive to everyone when obviously it isn't. I'm not saying that word haven't been used to harm. But by trying to police people in that way creates a culture of people who are scared to speak for fear of offending someone. The original poster who wrote about Rudy being a trap obviously didn't mean it in a negative or derogatory context, just in the context of a gay man cross dressing and enjoying making people think he's a girl.

You were speaking as though you were the final authority on this subject, when obviously it was your personal opinion. I have been abused and degraded and put down in countless ways. I know how harmful words can be. But there's a difference between malicious intent and someone who was just trying to use the best word they could think of to describe a situation.
Chase 16th May 2016, 1:27 AM edit delete reply
"The original poster who wrote about Rudy being a trap obviously didn't mean it in a negative or derogatory context, just in the context of a gay man cross dressing and enjoying making people think he's a girl."

I think you'd have to be pretty unaware of current events to not find that derogatory.

"You were speaking as though you were the final authority on this subject."

No. I'm just a trans person who finds it offensive, and a horrible thing to see here, as the word has in frequent instances been used to attack me, personally. This is why I used terms like "generally," "I am a little disappointed." I am voicing -my- opinion. I apologize if my meaning was unclear to you, but ultimately any use of the term to describe the situation, which you took in its -precise- meaning above, perpetuates that denigration and is absolutely still a slur because it perpetuates trans and gay panic. It is harmful. I honestly don't get why you don't see that and, again, it is highly disappointing, especially for the audience of this particular comic.
Guest 13th May 2016, 5:24 PM edit delete reply
Guys can wear dresses, too, though. People put gender labels on clothing, but there really shouldn't be. People wear what they want to, and maybe Rudy just feels comfortable in dresses, along with other clothing. It doesn't have to mean he's gender queer, just comfortable with who he is and what he likes.
Devgirl Neko 13th May 2016, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
Devgirl Neko
Cute how Rudy made a very similar expression to Rain's last page now that he's on the spot.
Chase 13th May 2016, 8:37 PM edit delete reply
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Rudy figure this out for himself. It's a journey you only really get to make once. Warm fuzzies. :3
Lemonado Girl 14th May 2016, 12:59 AM edit delete reply
Lemonado Girl
Half the reason my boyfriend was a mite slow in the uptake was that when I was simply dropping hints I fell into this sort of template which he had seen in someone who was not trans, so yeah, it happens.
HinataTlaltelpa 14th May 2016, 5:24 AM edit delete reply
HinataTlaltelpa
I think he's considering being trans
kyuubi no kitsune-hime 15th May 2016, 1:26 AM edit delete reply
Being trans isn't a choice, you don't consider being trans. You either are, or you aren't, or you're some other gender variant. Coming out of the closet is a choice, as is transition, but being trans, or cis, isn't a choice.
DocMesa 15th May 2016, 11:59 AM edit delete reply
I think perhaps it was an awkward choice of words from Hinata rather than a transphobic hate statement. Perhaps what they meant was "considering whether he might be trans".
kyuubi no kitsune-hime 15th May 2016, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
I didn't say it was a transphobic hate statement, I just corrected the wording. There's something that does irritate me. People are allowed to make mistakes, that's perfectly acceptable, it's how we learn. I really hate how correcting people gets morphed, by others, into a vehement condemnation. It's just a correction, not a demand for everyone to walk on eggshells.
Mikusagi 14th May 2016, 11:41 AM edit delete reply
I think Rudy likes those kind of clothes but ain't comfortable going as a guy in them because the reactions, so in order to wear the nicest kind of clothes you gotta create a drag character that could fool people. A dude in a dress at the mall? That's a no go. A girl in a dress at the mall? No one cares.
It could also be that Rudy is somewhat theatrical and likes playing characters.
guest 14th May 2016, 6:03 PM edit delete reply
Rudy has always seemed to be more sure of himself out of the characters in the story. Not confused about himself. Or at least he's always talked that way. I say take him for who he says he is. Or at least until he says otherwise. A male who occasionally likes to dress up and happens to be homosexual as well. And more intelligent than many men I've talked to.

Then again we don't know when or if Jocelyn will throw us s curve in his regard.
Leaf 14th May 2016, 11:11 PM edit delete reply
I'd like to think that for Rudy, crossdressing is very liberating. While he may be very publicly self-assured with his gender and orientation, I think sometimes it can be a bit too much in a context where he receives mostly negative attention for pretty much everything he is. So being "Ruby" for a while could just be a way to relieve himself from expectations -- those being both what other people expect from him, what he feels they expect from him and what he expect from himself.

While it may become a gender-related issue in the end, I still believe in this case, it's more of a freedom-related issue.
Mikasi 15th May 2016, 4:07 AM edit delete reply
I think Rudy is just a queen. And I don't mean that in a bad way, I know several 'queens' who are great people and I'm glad to have in my corner. Some guys just like dressing girly every so often.
Niesamowite 15th May 2016, 5:51 AM edit delete reply
My main theory for this webcomic is that Rudy is bigender and doesn't fully understand.
I have the same theory about Elliot from El Goonish Shive, but that one's based on less evidence.
vtk 15th May 2016, 1:34 PM edit delete reply
vtk
I also support the "bigender" theory for Rudy. His attitude is kind of similar to myself just as I was starting to recognize "male" didn't quite describe me properly, and now I seem to have settled on calling myself bigender. Also, I simply want it to be true, because I'm human and I would see that outcome as favorable and wanting favorable things to be true is a thing humans do.
Mikasi 17th May 2016, 7:29 AM edit delete reply
I could see where you are coming from on the Elliot guess, but who knows.

At least the Ted reveal was well done.
Guest 30th May 2016, 8:57 PM edit delete reply
Or maybe he's a demi-boy?
I would prefer if he was cis only because it's nice to see cisboys that wear dresses. I like when people defy gender roles, and a boy wearing a dress certainly does.
guest 7th Jun 2016, 10:32 AM edit delete reply
In the classic sex primer Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex*" it says that many or most "transvestites" just happen to be manly and wholly heterosexual men who get a thrill out of dressing up into the clothing usually considered to be for ladies. Guys who aren't femme any more than other manly men. Perhap, for those, a kink coming out of attraction to female beauty/sensuality and associating clothing of beings so inherently sensual with intensely erotic feelings. Hence, how they enjoy erotic feelings when dressing up.


My take is that Rudy is one of those of mainly masculine personality and views who just happens to be homosexual additionally.
guest 7th Jun 2016, 10:43 AM edit delete reply
And Rudy's final comment above seems to point to this.

He feels the thrill as described.
He doesn't need to questiion it.
He just goes with it.
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