Comic 617 - A Little Bit of Sense

26th Dec 2014, 1:45 AM in Ch. 23: The Flaherty Siblings
A Little Bit of Sense
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Jocelyn 26th Dec 2014, 1:45 AM edit delete
Jocelyn
Er-hem. Uh... Merry Christmas? Sorry for the heavy page for the holidays. It's just kind of the way things lined up. ^^;

I think it's a good discussion page though. Do you think Aiken's research has any hope of getting through to Kellen? She says she "really hates this", but what exactly do you think this is that she hates? And how do we feel about Aiken's attitude? Last time we're seeing them for the rest of the chapter, so get your thoughts on the siblings out now.


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Torne 26th Dec 2014, 2:26 AM edit delete reply
KABOOM! And I knew it!
Guest 26th Dec 2014, 4:10 AM edit delete reply
I'm very happy that Aiken is at least trying to be sympathetic and understand. Kellen, on the other hand, isn't trying very hard to be accepting of Rain which makes me quite sad.
Guest 26th Dec 2014, 4:12 AM edit delete reply
Quite a few of these things (e.g. there's nothing to fix) also applies to autism. Just accept people as who they are and everyone's happy.

(Well, maybe not eternally-rainbowland happy, but still :V)
mauveamygirl 26th Dec 2014, 5:12 PM edit delete reply
mauveamygirl
Actually, being genderfluid and having Aspergers's, I can attest to this.
j-eagle12212012 26th Dec 2014, 5:49 PM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
I'm transgender and I have aspergers so I know what you mean
mauveamygirl 26th Dec 2014, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
mauveamygirl
Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much how it is.
Stephanie 29th Dec 2014, 1:49 AM edit delete reply
I am trans and have aspergers as well. Is this common? I had never really linked the two in my mind before
Jocelyn 29th Dec 2014, 3:08 AM edit delete reply
Jocelyn
@Stephanie

I don't know if it's necessarily common or not, but I can attest that roughly a third of the trans people I know happen to also have Aspergers. It may well just happen to be the ones I know, but that is still kind of a lot. I would wonder if there's any kind of significance to that or if that's just a coincidence.
Stephanie 29th Dec 2014, 3:53 AM edit delete reply
Hmm, just did a quick google search and based on some articles linked it seems that possibly trans individuals have a higher chance of being on the Autism/Aspergers spectrum. I shall look further into this. I had never heard nor thought about this before.
Rain Beau Dash 27th Dec 2014, 1:54 AM edit delete reply
Autism and Gender Dysphoria actually have some overlappings. It is very common to see people being double diagnosed.
I don't know how and why this is, as i'm not a gender therapist and do not claim to be one. But it is an insteresting statistic.
I'm not diagnosed as gender dysphoric yet (only recently started seeing a therapist), but i might get a triple diagnosis, because i got some ADD on top of it. And imagine trying to explain to others how that works...
j-eagle12212012 29th Dec 2014, 12:08 AM edit delete reply
j-eagle12212012
I have ADHD, ADD, OCD, gender dysphoria,and Aspergers. So multiple diagnoises are common
Tualha 5th Jun 2015, 10:04 PM edit delete reply
Tualha
Me too. Genderfluid (I think, hard to pin it down) and Asperger's. Also somewhat demisexual and somewhat skoliosexual. I think I did read somewhere that Aspies are a lot more likely to be some kind of LGBT than neurotypicals are. (Or maybe we're just not as good at denial? Ha ha.)
Guest 26th Dec 2014, 7:13 AM edit delete reply
Aiken seems to have figured out what is important, though. That is really encouraging. Of course he's also had a lot of time to do some thinking, and Fara really got under his skin before she threw him out.


I'd be inclined to think Kellen's grieving the brother she knew. At least it almost looks like that sort of pain. Not logical, but emotions rarely are.

Of course, it doesn't excuse Kellen being a complete @*$!#%$.


It is really hard to say for sure with Kellen. From the phone calls with Fara, something else is going on with Kellen. Her reaction to her brother's engagement seemed to be a bit self destructive. It certainly isn't normal. So part of the "this" could have little to do with Rain and more with Kellen's own problems. Hard to say with a character we haven't gotten to know. I'd prefer to give her the benefit of the doubt before writing her off.
BlackFulcrum 26th Dec 2014, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
I think Kellen's biggest problem isn't the transgender issue per se, but Ryan/Rain him/herself.

Kellen has a mental image of Ryan, her little brother, as just that, her little brother.
Just as for your parents, whether you're 5, 15, 25, 35, 45, 55, etc your still their little boy/girl, their kid, you're never 100% adult to them.

Because of that mental image, at the moment, to her accepting Ryan as Rain, as a female, feels like killing off Ryan and getting Rain in return, who might share Ryan's memories, but to Kellen is a completely different person.
The truth of course is that Rain is Ryan's true self, and Ryan isn't gone, she was always like this, just hidden most of the time, the person she shared all those childhood memories with is still there.

Kellen has to learn about this, and then accept it, which for most people isn't an easy feat, since we humans like things to be they way they are, like they've alway been.

Kellen might even been far more accepting if this was say the little brother (whom she barely knows) of one of her friends.
But the fact being that this is her own little brother, that this is someone she grew up with and went trough a lot of childhood hardship with, which created an mental image of Ryan which we now know to be false, I think that's the reason she has some much trouble coping with this change.
It might even feel, falsely, but as someone else pointed out emotions rarely make logical sense, like betrayal, Ryan lied to her about who he really was, Kellen would consciously never think like that, but it might "feel" like that.

Kellen has to come to grips what she knew, and thought she knew about Ryan was partially false, and unify that with what she now knows, and comes to know over the next few days about Rain, and that will be a hard task for her.
Torne 26th Dec 2014, 10:56 PM edit delete reply
While I knew an ultimatum was going to be given to Kellen, and I figured it was death related, I get the feeling Jocelyn has something more dramatic behind Kellen's reason for struggling with this situation. Besides usually being the reasons IRL it also makes for a better story in most cases.
I might be completely off base here, but I'm guessing it has something to do with Fara in some way.
Waddles the penguin 26th Dec 2014, 4:33 PM edit delete reply
I think that Kellens issue is not about being trans but that she feels alone and abandoned.

Chapter 2 - 31 phone calls sums up how she feels first her mum dies and dad runs off then her twin runs off with a girl he met online and cuts contact and whenever she tries to talk to what family she has left she gets vague answers about 'Ryan'and only finds out about Rain because Aiken found out.

Now she feels like she is losing one of the few people in her life as having Rain means losing Ryan to her.

I think she just needs to spend time with Rain to see that they are still the same person on the inside and she hasn't lost anyone.
Jude P. 27th Dec 2014, 2:38 AM edit delete reply
Whoa. Aiken is actually a rational person. Now I know for sure that this is a work of fantasy—rationality is a fairy tale.
Syrup 27th Dec 2014, 4:38 AM edit delete reply
Toatal Scrub kellen confirmed. OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!!!
BiDeviant 22nd Feb 2015, 12:23 PM edit delete reply
Earlier today, I went on a long rant asking questions (that I am still unsure of how to check) and I referred to transgender as transexual. Tired mistake on my part, for which I want to apologize :P
Reimi 26th Jan 2016, 4:23 PM edit delete reply
Reimi
Typo on the fourth bubble.

"...that it had to be a our little brother."
Akane 4th Jul 2016, 11:28 PM edit delete reply
Kudos to Aiken. He really is mature enough to see things for what they are, after all.
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