Comic 1030 - Oh?

2nd Mar 2018, 2:07 PM in Ch. 34 - Promise
Oh?
Average Rating: 5 (8 votes)
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Jocelyn 2nd Mar 2018, 2:07 PM edit delete
Jocelyn
......Oh!

Thoughts?


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Guest 2nd Mar 2018, 2:24 PM edit delete reply
They themselves might be a transgender man/woman.
Royal Bee 2nd Mar 2018, 9:09 PM edit delete reply
Or enby. :)
Cassie 2nd Mar 2018, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
I love it! I think Colette might be questioning her (or possibly his) gender. Regardless, I hope that Collette becomes a part of the main crew.
Royal Bee 2nd Mar 2018, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
Or their. :P
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 3:07 PM edit delete reply
So, Collette may be a trans boy. Honestly, I think it'd be awesome to have a trans boy character who is in school with Rain, since Vincent is an adult and we don't see much of him. As a dfab man, I get excited to see characters who are more like me in media. There aren't a lot of forms of media with trans men main cast members that aren't tragic or gross.
Royal Bee 2nd Mar 2018, 9:27 PM edit delete reply
Personally I'm hoping for an enby, but I can def. sympathize.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:52 PM edit delete reply
Isn't Ky non binary though considering they're gender fluid and while sometimes a boy and sometimes a girl, they are also sometimes androgynous? Yeah, it can be hard to find people who are like you in media and trans girls seem to be more popular for some reason.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 3:21 PM edit delete reply
Also, I hope Ana gets less crazy paranoid spending time with Rain and crew because if she's really worried about her male/intersex past being discovered, it's her panicked reactions that will make people scrutinize her. If she was just confident and relaxed in who she is no one would ever give her a second glance. Unfortunately, our society makes a lot of us feel less "real" than cis people.
Honestly, I don't like Ana. Not because she's deep stealth, but because of the way she treats other lgbt people because of her fear. Her reaction to Rain being open with her was cruel and she is completely self absorbed in that she only ever seems to think of her feelings, safety, etc. For example, when Rudy apologized, Ana's first thought was for herself, not for the person who was actually endangering them self by opening up to a stranger. That's why I don't like her.
Emily 2nd Mar 2018, 3:37 PM edit delete reply
Yup. I tend to agree with this. I'm stealth myself, and explicitly don't talk about my trans history even with my other trans friends - but im still friends with them and will still be the loudest and best "ally" and advocate i can be. I get Ana has some paranoia, and id be lying if i said i didn't have a bit as well, but she lets it drive her actions and emotions faaaaaar too much
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
Exactly, I'm only open about being trans with doctors, family, and people who knew me before I transitioned. To everyone else I'm just myself a man because my medical history is none of their business. Ana's whole life is run by her fear, it's unhealthy.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
I only mention my transness in places like this where I'm anonymous as an qualifier so people understand where I'm coming from. Interestingly enough, even people online treat me different when they know I'm trans. Like in one discussion I got lambasted for being of the opinion that treating all men as untrustworthy because you've been through trauma is unhealthy. I was called MRA scum, then when I said I was trans and had been a sexual assault victim and that experience was informing my opinion, suddenly they were very nice to me and also kind of condescending, like because I was born female, I was misguided for not agreeing with them.
Pip 2nd Mar 2018, 6:22 PM edit delete reply
I don’t like this either, but I think because of Ana’s past experiences it’s understandable, if not entirely justified. I have faith in her that she’ll realise she’s overreacting once she learns to trust this friend group more, and be a bit more relaxed and supportive to those around her.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 6:27 PM edit delete reply
It's understandable, but not okay. Honestly, the girl should really go to therapy and process her trauma before she ruins her own life or someone else's. I hope she gets better too, but it doesn't make me like her more right now.
Guest 2nd Mar 2018, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
I don't think it's okay either, but as you said, it is understandable. There is a phenomenon where a large number of trans people gathered together begins to make onlookers 'suspicious'. As in, they'll begin to doubt even cis people are cis.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 7:32 PM edit delete reply
That's a dumb phenomenon, that's like saying everyone at pride parade is lgbt+.
Guest 2nd Mar 2018, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
It is dumb, but it still happens. I think Jocelyn has mentioned in one or two of her blurbs in the past.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:54 PM edit delete reply
I don't doubt it happens, I just think it's dumb.
Some Ed 5th Mar 2018, 2:46 PM edit delete reply
You know, given this comic setting, I'd be willing to bet that Ana is already going to therapy.

It's just that therapy is not like going to the doctor for a broken bone, where you go in, you see the doctor once, the bone is set and put in a cast, then you see the doctor again in 4 weeks, and evaluated on whether you need two more weeks in the cast, or are ready for a brace, and then after some weeks in the brace, you're cured. Mental health therapy usually takes years. Considering where Ana was in her process when she started in this strip, she has not been in therapy for years for this. Maybe she was in mental health therapy for years before that. But going through what she went through is pretty huge.

Disclaimer: I'm just a bit of dysphoria away from being comfortably cis. For purposes of this response, you can just think of me as crazy^Wa mental health patient. But then, really, aren't we all, either officially or unofficially?
Fox 6th Mar 2018, 2:16 AM edit delete reply
I know this about therapy, I have various mental health diagnosis and have been in therapy on and off my whole life. My longest stint is my current one of 5 years. We have no evidence Ana is in therapy, which is why I said this. Many of these kids could use counseling to work through issues, but I doubt that most of them are getting it. Even good parents often neglect to get children counseling or enough counseling.
Drake Zephyr 2nd Mar 2018, 4:19 PM edit delete reply
I think it's also possible Collete is trans MTF. There are quite a few couple where one is MTF, and one is FTM. A few other reasons I think this, just her name Collete, sounds like just a more girl version of Cole or Colton. Also she was like super nervous with the dance thing. Also, I'm not trans, gay, other, or whatever, so don't try to destroy me If I don't quite get how this works okay?
William 2nd Mar 2018, 10:50 PM edit delete reply
No choker.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:55 PM edit delete reply
You make a valid point, I personally lean more towards ftm given the clues we've had.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:56 PM edit delete reply
^this is to William
Drake Zephyr 4th Mar 2018, 5:32 PM edit delete reply
How does that even make sense?
Pixel 5th Mar 2018, 12:26 AM edit delete reply
Choker to cover the Adam's apple. You'll notice Rain and Ruby both wear one.
Jocelyn 5th Mar 2018, 1:31 AM edit delete reply
Jocelyn
A choker isn't a sure sign that a girl is trans. Not all trans women even have prominent adam's apples. Some folks - male or female, cis or trans - just like wearing chokers.

Please don't use something like that to assume things about people. -_-
Fox 5th Mar 2018, 2:07 AM edit delete reply
This is true IRL, but in comic all of the male characters who are or present as girls wear them, so it can be used only in this fictional universe as a clue.
Chrissy 5th Mar 2018, 1:51 PM edit delete reply
I might still have somewhat of an Adam's apple, but I don't wear chokers. Weird thing is it comes and goes, typically with my voice. The more controlled I have my voice, the less prominent it is.
Pixel 5th Mar 2018, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
Sorry! I probably shouldn't have spoken so authoritatively when I was just guessing. At least a question mark...
Guest 8th Mar 2018, 3:36 PM edit delete reply
I always thought chokers were cute, but I never realized they have a practical use. ^_^'
Anastasia 2nd Mar 2018, 4:49 PM edit delete reply
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M EXCITED!
bgb16999 2nd Mar 2018, 4:56 PM edit delete reply
bgb16999
PLOT TWIST: Colette is a trans man and chooses the name "Ryan." Thereafter, any time Aiden or Ana or anyone else who knows says "oh, hey, Ryan," Rain overhears and immediately freaks out, thinking they are talking to her!
mecaterpillar 2nd Mar 2018, 5:11 PM edit delete reply
Did Ana’s left eye turn blue on that last panel or am I seeing a color where there is none there?
Drake Zephyr 2nd Mar 2018, 5:13 PM edit delete reply
Maybe your just colorblind?
Darkxluna 2nd Mar 2018, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
She has always had one blue and one green eye.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
Ana has heterochromia, two different eye colors. It's been confirmed this is intentional.
William 2nd Mar 2018, 5:59 PM edit delete reply
Indeed, and this plus the fact that she was born with ambiguous genitalia means there is a high chance that she is a chimera (see Ruth's comment on comic 1027).
Ruth 2nd Mar 2018, 6:57 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
Yes, having total heterochromia where both eyes are completely different colors from each other, that cannot be explained by disease or injury, has pretty much only one explanation for existing on that person.... the eyes developed from different sets of DNA.... which means the person is a chimera. Same goes for being born with both male and female reproductive system organs occurring simultaneously in the same body... only one way that can happen - two sets of pluripotent embryonic stem cells, one male the other female.

Interestingly enough, Two days ago I had my first visit to see a new doctor to oversee my HRT and get the plan fot GRS rolling, and get prescriptions for injectable hormones because that is like 10 times better for you and more effective than pills. I'd been self-medding on injections for 5 months after giving up on my old pill-based HRT which had plateaued at an insufficient level,of feminization. Technically my new doctor is a psychiatrist, but also specializes in transitioning patients' HRT and approval for surgeries. He's smart and sharp as heck too, and kind of a hipster, with a ponytail. After first meeting him, he pretty much guessed my whole life story before I even told him. We then discussed my previous HRT and my self medding switch to injections and he was very impressed with my accumulated knowledge of HRT and said I know more about that than any endocrinologist in our town, and probably almost as much as himself.
Then he said that he noticed something unusual about my eyes and asked to examine them so I let him get a close look, plus showed him some close-up pics of my eyes under different lighting that I have on my iphone. Then he said, "You have central heterochromia, you have a female's pelvis. You're a chimera. Do you know what a chimera is?" I was blown away and told him Yeah I do know.... fraternal twin brother and sister embryos combined into a single fetus with the DNA of various tisdues and body parts half and half, and I've been suspecting that for a long time now but don't I need to get multi-tissue karyotype testing done to really find out? He said he doesn't need a test to recognize a chimera when he sees one. Whoa!!!!!! He surmised Im a chimera just on visual evidence he's seen and studied before. I think I'm gonna like this doctor. He then wrote all the hormone prescriptions I needed plus my letters to take to court to finalize my legal name and gender change in mid March and said he wants to see me again in 2 months, the last week of April, then he wrote one more prescription out and told me I have to get it filled before the next visit, and handed me the paper as he said "Welcome to Womanhood". I looked at the script.... it's for a mammogram screening. My first. Oh wow.... that right there sure drive home the point that this is where s--t just got real. Really real. This is not some phase that'll pass by and someday get dismissed with a "Nevermind". There is no turning back now or ever. Not only is my body significantly feminized by hormones, but I am legitimately, even at the DNA level, probably approximately 50% biologically female too. And my boobs are now developed enough that a medical doctor ordered me to get my first mammogram.

And for the icing on the cake... even though I haven't formalized my name change in the courts yet, My employer's HR office issued me a new photo ID yesterday, bearing the name "Ruby Ruth Neal" on it along with my job position and title, and my 21 year old employee ID number and starting date back in 1996.

Today is also the 1.5 years (18 months) "anniversary" of my HRT, having started Sept 2, 2016.

I had calculated at the beginning of this journey that it would take at least 3 years to transition.
I'm halfway home folks..... halfway home now. But it looks like the rest of the journey is going to be uphill. I say "Bring it !!!!!"
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 7:30 PM edit delete reply
My husband's father, my husband, and my daughter all have genetic central heterchromia, my daughter is also dmab. I wonder if that means anything?
Ruth 4th Mar 2018, 10:48 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
There are other causes and reasons for central heterochromia than chimerism / mosaicism, although plural DNA is a big reason. In my case I didn't have central heterochromia until after I started HRT. My eyes used to be solid brown and within a mere 30 days after starting low dose estradiol via pills, my eyes changed colors. It's as if all the cells with XX in my eyeballs, with all their dormant estrogen receptors suddenly got bathed in enough estrodiol that they finally woke up and told all the testosterone-produced melanin pigment to GTFO outta there. About 30% remained stubbornly behind though..... which is really interesting because after taking about half a dozen different psychological gender identity tests, every last one of them scored me as being roughly 70% feminine and 30% masculine. This makes me wonder if my eyes, brain, etc are composed of mosaically distributed XX and XY cells? I have no evidence of mosaic DNA distribution in my skin though, and it's generally accepted that during embryonic development, the central nervous system and skin develop from the same group of stem cells.
Fox 5th Mar 2018, 2:12 AM edit delete reply
Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate it.
Jocelyn 2nd Mar 2018, 8:34 PM edit delete reply
Jocelyn
Fun fact: Ana has heterochromia solely because a friend was telling me about someone they met with one green eye and one blue eye. It made me realize I'd never done heterochromia before with one of my characters. So I decided the next character I made (in any story) would have it. The next character I made happened to be Ana.

Several readers did predict Ana's intersex condition before it was revealed because of her heterochromia too. While plausible, that actually didn't factor into my reasoning at all. I just wanted her to have two different colored eyes. XD
Ruth 4th Mar 2018, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
Ruth
@Jocelyn.... Uncanny coincidence is uncanny, eh? I had no idea about heterochromia being caused by chimerism/mosaicism either until recently when I began researching possible reasons why I have a female-shaped pelvis.
mecaterpillar 2nd Mar 2018, 10:14 PM edit delete reply
I think you guys all missed this point. I said her *left* eye for a reason. That’s the one that’s always colored green. I do think that maybe the blue I’m seeing there is just a compression artifact. I certainly did not expect this many replies to my comment!
mecaterpillar 2nd Mar 2018, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
Having looked at the panel again and blowing it up as much as my phone is willing to blow it up, I can make out the difference in color between the two eyes. Her left eye is green there.
Fox 3rd Mar 2018, 12:01 AM edit delete reply
I'm autistic and telling left from right is hard for me, so I looked at the picture and got them mixed up.
William 2nd Mar 2018, 5:28 PM edit delete reply
Ok, either Colette is trans or Jocelyn is messing with us.
Lemonado Girl 2nd Mar 2018, 5:41 PM edit delete reply
Lemonado Girl
Monday's strip: Colette browsing r/traa "for the memes." /joke
JoPlusLuv 2nd Mar 2018, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
Oh my god! I would love some subtle reference to r/traa or even r/gssp
Reimi 4th Mar 2018, 12:02 AM edit delete reply
Reimi
or r/asktransgender
Drake Zephyr 2nd Mar 2018, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
Hey, after reading webcomics like this for so long, I decided to start my own web comic. You kind of half inspired me to do so, along with the DB Multiverse guys. Btw, it has nothing in relation to this genre what-so-ever.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
What's it about?
Drake Zephyr 2nd Mar 2018, 8:17 PM edit delete reply
It's like a sequel/spin-off to Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood that takes place in the distant future. It's called Zack Alpha: The Fury-Storm Alchemist.
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
Interesting ☺
Catlife333 2nd Mar 2018, 9:07 PM edit delete reply
I dont think its unusual to ask a trans person lots of questions. Colette also does seem pretty excited but for what little we know about her she could just be an excited person at times. It didn't really seem all that unusual to me. Although, that being said, I am a partly closeted trans person, who hasnt met very many trans people, so the reaction Colette had felt pretty much like the reaction I'd have and I guess I just assumed most people would have.
Fox 3rd Mar 2018, 12:02 AM edit delete reply
What was unusual is how excited she was about it.
Lilith 2nd Mar 2018, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
They don't seem confused when Rudy says cis, as if they're already familiar with the term
Fox 2nd Mar 2018, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
I noticed that too.
BASHparallel 3rd Mar 2018, 1:56 AM edit delete reply
I mean, I knew what cis meant years before I knew I was trans, and even when I thought I was cishet. SO I wouldn't say Colette's a trans guy just because of that, though I do definitely agree Colette must be non-cis.
bgb16999 3rd Mar 2018, 5:43 AM edit delete reply
bgb16999
Cis is a Latin word. Colette goes to a Catholic school, so they may have learned Latin for one reason or another. It's really not that uncommon.
Some Ed 5th Mar 2018, 3:11 PM edit delete reply
It's a Latin word, but the usage is new. Not a "what the hell are you talking about" difference, considering that trans was being discussed. But Rudy's comfortable usage of it that way might clue Colette into realizing, while Rudy might not be trans, the topic is not new to him.

(I've known several Catholic school graduates to have a "What - oh" moment when hearing cis for the first time in a trans context.)
BASHparallel 3rd Mar 2018, 1:49 AM edit delete reply
I hope Colette is some flavour of nonbinary, as the only one we have atm is Ky. Especially if they turn out to be transmasculine, as there's only one transmasc character so far :D
James 3rd Mar 2018, 9:16 AM edit delete reply
So I legit just sent my only fellow tguy friend a shrieking text to check this week's comic. Don't even care if Collette turns out to be a tguy or not, but like pls
Represent yo
Matt Comics 3rd Mar 2018, 10:51 AM edit delete reply
Matt Comics
Not sure what to conclude on Colette's gender identity so far, we need more clues. About her orientation, though... I'm not a shipper, but maybe she's just attracted to trans boys and/or androgynous people?
Da Huuuuudge 3rd Mar 2018, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
Not that it's likely to happen, but this school BADLY needs a Gay Straight Alliance.
Some Ed 5th Mar 2018, 3:14 PM edit delete reply
This school *has* at least one Gay Straight Alliance. They're just not an official student organization. We just know them as the main cast. ;)
Neelix 3rd Mar 2018, 10:10 PM edit delete reply
Regardless of what Colette's own gender identity may be, it's clear she has questions about being trans, many of which Ana may well have the answers to. I can't help wondering if this will be the beginning of the end for Ana's extreme stealth. Could Ana find herself wanting to come out to Colette?
clam_shell 3rd Mar 2018, 11:33 PM edit delete reply
Woo! Finally caught up after 10 days of light binging. I'm trying to get a friend into reading this damn series and I might be getting somewhere.

I do hope Collette becomes a somewhat major character later on, they seem interesting so far, even if we have only seen little of them. And Ana is far too on edge all of the time.
Sammi 4th Mar 2018, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
We don't really know enough about Colette yet to know his/her/their identity yet, though we can speculate as many of us are choosing to do, but I just want to say that I have always liked Colette and I hope we see more of her now that she seems at least somewhat interested (if nothing else) in non-binary gender identities. :)
Honeywheeler 5th Mar 2018, 4:05 PM edit delete reply
So, we were learning about fats in class a while back and we were learning about cis and trans fats. Apparently Cis fats are good and Trans fats are bad. Maybe someone was listening to their science class wrong and that’s why being trans is seen as bad? Lol
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